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Post by déjà vu on Nov 15, 2014 19:38:34 GMT -5
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Post by bubbles on Nov 15, 2014 20:38:18 GMT -5
Dmich No it isnt every christians belief. They arent behind it either.
Ive decided that dialogue with you is not profitable. Im going to put you on ignore. Much against the fact that it is discurtious for me to do so.I find you an extremely unpleasant individual. Someone I dont need speaking into my life. Be happy and of good cheer. Au revoir
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Post by déjà vu on Nov 15, 2014 23:06:47 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2014 23:47:46 GMT -5
1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 16, 2014 0:08:53 GMT -5
This says more about you than it does about Oprah Winfrey.
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Post by BobWilliston on Nov 16, 2014 0:11:49 GMT -5
This bothers you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 0:18:20 GMT -5
its to be expected as we slowly slide down into the pit...
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 16, 2014 1:22:05 GMT -5
Dmich No it isnt every christians belief. They arent behind it either. Ive decided that dialogue with you is not profitable. Im going to put you on ignore. Much against the fact that it is discurtious for me to do so.I find you an extremely unpleasant individual. Someone I dont need speaking into my life. Be happy and of good cheer. Au revoir I didn't think The New World Order a Christian belief, bubbles.
But you said, "Haven't you got anything better to do than trying to discredit every christians belief and prove them wrong?"
I simply thought you knew something about it that maybe I didn't know! Thus my question to you.
So long.
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 16, 2014 1:40:40 GMT -5
its to be expected as we slowly slide down into the pit... Isn't that the kind biased news you would expect from Fox news, wally? Especially from columnist Todd Starnes.
Todd Starnes has strongly conservative views, which he likes "to spice it up a little bit" to generate reader interest, have also generated controversy.
In 2013, he became the focus of controversy when CNN, among other news outlets,[10] leveled accusations of racism against Starnes.
A series of Twitter comments he posted online, following Nina Davuluri becoming the first Indian American winner of the Miss America Pageant , as Starnes called it, the "Miss Politically Correct America", Miss America Pageant were the basis for the reaction. from wikiPS: Mother Teresa is no hero in my book.
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Post by déjà vu on Nov 18, 2014 20:14:37 GMT -5
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Post by déjà vu on Nov 25, 2014 21:15:54 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Nov 25, 2014 22:14:36 GMT -5
Well, Mr. Tell from Switzerland, I beginning to see why your tag line is: "If you are not a Christian, you are part of the anti-Christ “ Adrian Rogers Maybe you should listen to a few different news stations other than "foxnews" once in awhile. Is that the only news station available to you in the ALPS?
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Post by déjà vu on Dec 14, 2014 22:39:36 GMT -5
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AFGHANISTAN: Humanitarian Workers Killed by Taliban Gunmen
Source: Voice of the Martyrs USA
The Groenewald family Three South Africans and two Afghan nationals were killed in an attack on the Partnership in Academics & Development compound in Kabul on Saturday, November 29th. Werner Groenewald was killed along with his 17-year-old son, 15-year-old daughter, and two Afghan co-workers. Three Taliban gunmen had entered the compound dressed as policemen and carried out an attack that lasted for three hours. Werner's surviving wife, Hannelie, was at the clinic where she worked as a doctor when the attack occurred. Werner, who had worked in Afghanistan for 12 years, was killed while trying to protect his children.
The Taliban later claimed responsibility for the attack by posting a message on the Twitter social networking site, stating that it was a "Christian proselytizing compound." A friend of Werner's reported that he had closed his last session with an international group of co-workers by saying, "We only die once, so it might as well be for Jesus."
(To learn more about what Christians are facing in Afghanistan, review our online country report.)
Please uphold the distraught families of the two slain Afghan workers and Werner's now suddenly widowed wife, Hannelie, who has tragically lost three close family members of her own. Ask the Lord to supernaturally sustain these bereaved Christians as they come to terms with their tremendous loss. Pray that as they grieve, He will give them the strength and grace needed to exemplify His love through their Godly response, as well as through their prayers for the persecutors (Matthew 5:43-48). May their tragic loss not be in vain, but rather serve as a powerful testimony -- one that will ultimately strengthen fellow believers and draw many Afghans to Christ.
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 14, 2014 23:23:26 GMT -5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AFGHANISTAN: Humanitarian Workers Killed by Taliban Gunmen Source: Voice of the Martyrs USA The Groenewald family Three South Africans and two Afghan nationals were killed in an attack on the Partnership in Academics & Development compound in Kabul on Saturday, November 29th. Werner Groenewald was killed along with his 17-year-old son, 15-year-old daughter, and two Afghan co-workers. Three Taliban gunmen had entered the compound dressed as policemen and carried out an attack that lasted for three hours. Werner's surviving wife, Hannelie, was at the clinic where she worked as a doctor when the attack occurred. Werner, who had worked in Afghanistan for 12 years, was killed while trying to protect his children. The Taliban later claimed responsibility for the attack by posting a message on the Twitter social networking site, stating that it was a "Christian proselytizing compound." A friend of Werner's reported that he had closed his last session with an international group of co-workers by saying, "We only die once, so it might as well be for Jesus." (To learn more about what Christians are facing in Afghanistan, review our online country report.) Please uphold the distraught families of the two slain Afghan workers and Werner's now suddenly widowed wife, Hannelie, who has tragically lost three close family members of her own. Ask the Lord to supernaturally sustain these bereaved Christians as they come to terms with their tremendous loss. Pray that as they grieve, He will give them the strength and grace needed to exemplify His love through their Godly response, as well as through their prayers for the persecutors (Matthew 5:43-48). May their tragic loss not be in vain, but rather serve as a powerful testimony -- one that will ultimately strengthen fellow believers and draw many Afghans to Christ. What if the families don't want that kind of prayer? The town wanted to celebrate Pat Tillman's brave death (by friendly fire) in Afghanistan by having a public service for him and praising him into heaven -- it worked until his brother took the stage and said, in effect, "I resent your making religious merchandise of my brother's death. We are atheists, and he's dead and he's not coming back and you aren't going to see him again."
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 14, 2014 23:28:02 GMT -5
Dmich No it isnt every christians belief. They arent behind it either. Ive decided that dialogue with you is not profitable. Im going to put you on ignore. Much against the fact that it is discurtious for me to do so.I find you an extremely unpleasant individual. Someone I dont need speaking into my life. Be happy and of good cheer. Au revoir You tell 'er, girlie!!
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Post by xna on Dec 18, 2014 22:21:56 GMT -5
freethoughtreport.com/about-the-report/Atheists: the new persecuted minority, international report concludes (COMMENTARY) - Religion News Service (RNS) Atheists, humanists and liberals are now the targets of hate campaigns, according to a new Freedom of Thought Report, which found that some countries find the idea of atheism as a popular movement a threat to the prevailing order. The report by the International Humanist and Ethical Union demonstrates a shift away from viewing atheists, humanists and secular liberals as merely apostates. For example: Saudi Arabia is no friend of human rights and punishes apostasy with death (or, more often, enforced recantation and Quranic learning). But in January, Saudi Arabia enacted a new law equating “atheism” in itself with “terrorism.” Another example: In May, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak branded humanism and secularism, as well as liberalism, as “deviant.” To Najib, this combined secular worldview is a kind of “new religion.” And in a more widely reported story in June, Egyptian authorities proposed an organized campaign against atheists. Nuamat Sati of the Ministry of Youth announced a program to spread awareness of “the dangers of atheism” and why it is “a threat to society,” so that young atheists in particular, who are increasingly vocal on social media, would be given “a chance to reconsider their decisions and go back to their religion.” Since then, several prominent atheists — young people finding their voice on YouTube and social media — have been harassed and arrested. To some readers, maybe this won’t sound very controversial. But imagine the developments above, applied to other groups: The Jews are “deviant.” The Muslims are a kind of “new religion” that will bring down the state. Or, Christian thought is a form of “terrorism.” This language is all too familiar. It goes far beyond merely dissenting or disagreeing with a point of view. It is, as we would readily recognize with other groups, intolerant — the stuff on which mass hatred and tragedy are made. As editor of the report, I believe there are three important things that must now happen: The international community must accept freedom of thought and conscience. The theist’s right to theism is the very same right as the atheist’s right to atheism. As a moral right it derives from our shared human nature; as a legal convention it is written in the international framework, known as Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Those who really don’t like atheism must accept that it isn’t going to go away. Studies vary widely in their estimates of irreligiosity, but the vast majority of research does show that atheists are a real and growing global minority. As access to comparative religious and wider philosophical ideas becomes available through our globalizing culture, the old geo-religious blocs are breaking down and atheism is sprouting up in the cracks. Atheists and humanists should not be afraid of recognizing they are a persecuted minority. This language does not come easily. For some it may just sound ridiculous, because it’s such an unreality in the lives of relatively comfortable, secular, liberal countries. For other atheists, the idea of being a group is antithetical. Many came to atheism as individuals and may have left religion in part because of what we saw as the perils of groupthink. Nevertheless, we are a group in the eyes of intolerant societies. We must recognize this, even embrace it. We must show solidarity to people living in parts of the world where advocating humanism or even lobbying for secularism or liberalism can be dangerous.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 16:40:13 GMT -5
freethoughtreport.com/about-the-report/Atheists: the new persecuted minority, international report concludes (COMMENTARY) - Religion News Service (RNS) Atheists, humanists and liberals are now the targets of hate campaigns, according to a new Freedom of Thought Report, which found that some countries find the idea of atheism as a popular movement a threat to the prevailing order. The report by the International Humanist and Ethical Union demonstrates a shift away from viewing atheists, humanists and secular liberals as merely apostates. For example: Saudi Arabia is no friend of human rights and punishes apostasy with death (or, more often, enforced recantation and Quranic learning). But in January, Saudi Arabia enacted a new law equating “atheism” in itself with “terrorism.” Another example: In May, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak branded humanism and secularism, as well as liberalism, as “deviant.” To Najib, this combined secular worldview is a kind of “new religion.” And in a more widely reported story in June, Egyptian authorities proposed an organized campaign against atheists. Nuamat Sati of the Ministry of Youth announced a program to spread awareness of “the dangers of atheism” and why it is “a threat to society,” so that young atheists in particular, who are increasingly vocal on social media, would be given “a chance to reconsider their decisions and go back to their religion.” Since then, several prominent atheists — young people finding their voice on YouTube and social media — have been harassed and arrested. To some readers, maybe this won’t sound very controversial. But imagine the developments above, applied to other groups: The Jews are “deviant.” The Muslims are a kind of “new religion” that will bring down the state. Or, Christian thought is a form of “terrorism.” This language is all too familiar. It goes far beyond merely dissenting or disagreeing with a point of view. It is, as we would readily recognize with other groups, intolerant — the stuff on which mass hatred and tragedy are made. As editor of the report, I believe there are three important things that must now happen: The international community must accept freedom of thought and conscience. The theist’s right to theism is the very same right as the atheist’s right to atheism. As a moral right it derives from our shared human nature; as a legal convention it is written in the international framework, known as Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Those who really don’t like atheism must accept that it isn’t going to go away. Studies vary widely in their estimates of irreligiosity, but the vast majority of research does show that atheists are a real and growing global minority. As access to comparative religious and wider philosophical ideas becomes available through our globalizing culture, the old geo-religious blocs are breaking down and atheism is sprouting up in the cracks. Atheists and humanists should not be afraid of recognizing they are a persecuted minority. This language does not come easily. For some it may just sound ridiculous, because it’s such an unreality in the lives of relatively comfortable, secular, liberal countries. For other atheists, the idea of being a group is antithetical. Many came to atheism as individuals and may have left religion in part because of what we saw as the perils of groupthink. Nevertheless, we are a group in the eyes of intolerant societies. We must recognize this, even embrace it. We must show solidarity to people living in parts of the world where advocating humanism or even lobbying for secularism or liberalism can be dangerous. another minority group just great...well welcome to the club...
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Post by BobWilliston on Dec 19, 2014 21:33:48 GMT -5
freethoughtreport.com/about-the-report/Atheists: the new persecuted minority, international report concludes (COMMENTARY) - Religion News Service (RNS) Atheists, humanists and liberals are now the targets of hate campaigns, according to a new Freedom of Thought Report, which found that some countries find the idea of atheism as a popular movement a threat to the prevailing order. The report by the International Humanist and Ethical Union demonstrates a shift away from viewing atheists, humanists and secular liberals as merely apostates. For example: Saudi Arabia is no friend of human rights and punishes apostasy with death (or, more often, enforced recantation and Quranic learning). But in January, Saudi Arabia enacted a new law equating “atheism” in itself with “terrorism.” Another example: In May, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak branded humanism and secularism, as well as liberalism, as “deviant.” To Najib, this combined secular worldview is a kind of “new religion.” And in a more widely reported story in June, Egyptian authorities proposed an organized campaign against atheists. Nuamat Sati of the Ministry of Youth announced a program to spread awareness of “the dangers of atheism” and why it is “a threat to society,” so that young atheists in particular, who are increasingly vocal on social media, would be given “a chance to reconsider their decisions and go back to their religion.” Since then, several prominent atheists — young people finding their voice on YouTube and social media — have been harassed and arrested. To some readers, maybe this won’t sound very controversial. But imagine the developments above, applied to other groups: The Jews are “deviant.” The Muslims are a kind of “new religion” that will bring down the state. Or, Christian thought is a form of “terrorism.” This language is all too familiar. It goes far beyond merely dissenting or disagreeing with a point of view. It is, as we would readily recognize with other groups, intolerant — the stuff on which mass hatred and tragedy are made. As editor of the report, I believe there are three important things that must now happen: The international community must accept freedom of thought and conscience. The theist’s right to theism is the very same right as the atheist’s right to atheism. As a moral right it derives from our shared human nature; as a legal convention it is written in the international framework, known as Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Those who really don’t like atheism must accept that it isn’t going to go away. Studies vary widely in their estimates of irreligiosity, but the vast majority of research does show that atheists are a real and growing global minority. As access to comparative religious and wider philosophical ideas becomes available through our globalizing culture, the old geo-religious blocs are breaking down and atheism is sprouting up in the cracks. Atheists and humanists should not be afraid of recognizing they are a persecuted minority. This language does not come easily. For some it may just sound ridiculous, because it’s such an unreality in the lives of relatively comfortable, secular, liberal countries. For other atheists, the idea of being a group is antithetical. Many came to atheism as individuals and may have left religion in part because of what we saw as the perils of groupthink. Nevertheless, we are a group in the eyes of intolerant societies. We must recognize this, even embrace it. We must show solidarity to people living in parts of the world where advocating humanism or even lobbying for secularism or liberalism can be dangerous. another minority group just great...well welcome to the club... It's that confounded First Amendment.
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Post by déjà vu on Jan 12, 2015 20:05:35 GMT -5
Subject: Fwd: Muslims - Desecrating a WWII Cemetery I cannot believe this crap, it is time to go rag head hunting. i am sick and tired of these bastards. Every time a joke and/or cartoon is made about the Koran, the whole world turns upside down...!! and we are all called racists!!!!!!!! However they appear to do whatever they like and no one says anything. Here is a video of some lovely Muslims desecrating a British WWII Cemetery.....a stylish bunch of folks.... Muslims & WWII Cemetery This is absolutely disgusting; keep this going so everyone on your email list sees it and passes it on. WW II - British Military Cemetery in Libya. Majority of people remain silent. See this video while it's available & before its removal !!! www.youtube.com/embed/RtgbvotqVFE?rel=0
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2015 20:13:35 GMT -5
well they couldn't find the guts to attack anything that would fight back...
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Post by rational on Jan 16, 2015 17:15:02 GMT -5
And here we have a plea to launch yet another social virus. Make sure you include the 'raghead' comment because that really makes you stand out.
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Post by SharonArnold on Jan 16, 2015 17:35:28 GMT -5
And here we have a plea to launch yet another social virus. Make sure you include the 'raghead' comment because that really makes you stand out. "Raghead?" "Raghead??!!!" deja vu, I have "ragheads" as neighbors. They are some of the best apple farmers in the Okanagan. They are also some of the finest human beings that I have been privileged to know. In terms of their neighborliness, conduct, idealism, humanity - they put me to shame. Any day.
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Post by snow on Jan 16, 2015 18:29:01 GMT -5
And here we have a plea to launch yet another social virus. Make sure you include the 'raghead' comment because that really makes you stand out. "Raghead?" "Raghead??!!!" deja vu, I have "ragheads" as neighbors. They are some of the best apple farmers in the Okanagan. They are also some of the finest human beings that I have been privileged to know. In terms of their neighborliness, conduct, idealism, humanity - they put me to shame. Any day. Sharon, clearly you are not using a broad enough brush!
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 16, 2015 19:34:43 GMT -5
[quote author=" déjà vu" source="/post/623012/thread" timestamp="1421111135 Muslims - Desecrating a WWII Cemetery
"I cannot believe this crap, it is time to go rag head hunting. i am sick and tired of these bastards." No one wants to see any cemetery torn up but take a look at an excerpt from Liberia's history. World War II and after"The new significance of Liberia became apparent after the outbreak of World War II. During the war Liberia’s rubber plantation was the only source of natural latex rubber available to the Allies, apart from plantations in Ceylon (now Sri Lanka)."
Of course the British soldiers who died & were buried there had no input into the matter but what they really fighting for?
Rubber?
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Post by fixit on Jan 19, 2015 16:36:17 GMT -5
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 19, 2015 21:49:11 GMT -5
Isn't that is what fundamentalist religious factions have very often did?
Is it any wonder that I have became a non-believer in ANY religion?
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Post by slowtosee on Jan 20, 2015 0:19:53 GMT -5
Isn't that is what fundamentalist religious factions have very often did?
Is it any wonder that I have became a non-believer in ANY religion?
I can understand your mistrust of ANY religion. A good friend of mine, who considers himself an atheist, used the same argument , that it was because of all the BAD things that religious people do and have done, that he became an atheist. Simple question, well, if I could demonstrate that the same BAD things are being done and have been done by atheists, what would he convert to then or whatever? hmmm Better find some better reason than that . Interestingly, Jim Jones , who fooled many as being a church leader or cult whatever, was actually an atheist. Totally weird but he said he used the "church" as a ruse to promote atheism. CRAZY , eh? Alvin Jim Jones drew people into atheism through the People’s Temple, largely based in California. He said that he “took the church and used the church to bring people to atheism”. In 1978, 909 people at the restricted communist “sanctuary” he presided over in Jonestown, Guyana, committed “revolutionary suicide” at his command. This occurred after the arrival of an American delegation, which he claimed was conspiring against the People’s Temple. Men, women and children took a vial of cyanide and died within five minutes. Only a few people escaped. This event was the largest single loss of American civilian life, in a non-natural disaster, up until 9/11. This entry has the unique status of being on both the atheism and Christianity list. The reason is that the majority of people considered Jones to be the leader of a type of Christian cult, but, as the quote above illustrates, it was really a ruse to attract people who would otherwise have steered well clear of him. listverse.com/2010/06/05/10-people-who-give-atheism-a-bad-name/.
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Post by dmmichgood on Jan 20, 2015 2:10:48 GMT -5
Isn't that is what fundamentalist religious factions have very often did?
Is it any wonder that I have became a non-believer in ANY religion?
I can understand your mistrust of ANY religion. A good friend of mine, who considers himself an atheist, used the same argument , that it was because of all the BAD things that religious people do and have done, that he became an atheist. Simple question, well, if I could demonstrate that the same BAD things are being done and have been done by atheists, what would he convert to then or whatever? hmmm Better find some better reason than that . Interestingly, Jim Jones , who fooled many as being a church leader or cult whatever, was actually a n atheist. Totally weird but he said he used the "church" as a ruse to promote atheism. CRAZY , eh? Alvin J im Jones drew people into atheism through the People’s Temple, largely based in California. He said that he “took the church and used the church to bring people to atheism”. In 1978, 909 people at the restricted communist “sanctuary” he presided over in Jonestown, Guyana, committed “revolutionary suicide” at his command. This occurred after the arrival of an American delegation, which he claimed was conspiring against the People’s Temple. Men, women and children took a vial of cyanide and died within five minutes. Only a few people escaped. This event was the largest single loss of American civilian life, in a non-natural disaster, up until 9/11. This entry has the unique status of being on both the atheism and Christianity list. The reason is that the majority of people considered Jones to be the leader of a type of Christian cult, but, as the quote above illustrates, it was really a ruse to attract people who would otherwise have steered well clear of him. listverse.com/2010/06/05/10-people-who-give-atheism-a-bad-name/. Not true about Jim Jones, Alvin. Jim Jones was NOT an atheist!
Jones did use communistic ideas on purpose to mislead his people, but he was NOT an atheist!"Jones carefully wove in that the Temple's home for senior citizens was established on the basis "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", quoting Karl Marx's "Critique of the Gotha Program".[13] He did so knowing that his Christian audience would recognize the similarities with text from the Acts of the Apostles (4:34–35) which stated "distribution was made to each as any had need."[13] Jones would repeatedly cite that passage to paint Jesus Christ as a communist, while at the same time attacking much of the text of the Bible."
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