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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 21:23:50 GMT -5
one year at Wintergrass performing (formally that time),,,,,,,,,, we had performed INFORMALLY before .. . jamming amongst the crowds of jammers .. . which, i'm not sure what was more fun/special, being up on stage officially doing a "paid" gig or just jamming .. as it was the jam sessions attracting listeners that encouraged us to eventually make our own CD .. . so anyways as a prelude to one of the songs, i told the inspiration behind it .. i had always wanted to write/RIGHT a real bluegrass/BLEUgrass song, finally, one day-i DID---AND i told our little devoted audience: the secret to writing a bluegrass song is to include all the necessary "elements" :: cheatin', lyin', sinnin', heartache, heartbreak, treachery, death, morbid things, pain, hurt, murder, mournfulness, sorrow, graveyards and haunted spirits and then include your own brand of "gospel truth"......belt it out when you sing - no falsetto allowed- and include a hard-driving bango break (instrumental)THEN, you've got yourself a REALLY REALLY GOOD ["high lonesome"] bluegrass song! the crowd roared with laughter .. well, my first real bluegrass song WAS inspired by DIVORCEs i had witnessed recently in my own family and they didn't know it at the time, but they inspired me,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 21:34:23 GMT -5
Brand New HeartYou built me up, just to tear me down. You stood me up, now I stand my ground. And I'm tired of lovin' you, Tell you what I'm about to do... 1st chorus: I'm gonna break these chains of love. Then I'll thank the stars above. That I got away, with what's left of my heart. And I'll make a brand new start.[banjo/guitar split break] I'm gonna break, these chains at last. And take a good long look at what's passed. So I can stop a love that's wrong. Before it takes a hold where it don't belong. 2nd chorus: Hey I'm alright, yeah I'm okay. This loving game I just won't play. Your hurtin' ways, took a piece of my heart. But now I'll make a brand new start. A brand new start. For a brand new heart. repeat first chorus. A brand new start. For a brand new heart. (voila) thx to anyone who has inspired a song and didn't even know it .. ! .
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Post by Gene on Jan 24, 2014 21:50:51 GMT -5
one year at Wintergrass performing (formally that time),,,,,,,,,, we had performed INFORMALLY before .. . jamming amongst the crowds of jammers .. . which, i'm not sure what was more fun/special, being up on stage officially doing a "paid" gig or just jamming .. as it was the jam sessions attracting listeners that encouraged us to eventually make our own CD .. . so anyways as a prelude to one of the songs, i told the inspiration behind it .. i had always wanted to write/RIGHT a real bluegrass/BLEUgrass song, finally, one day-i DID---AND i told our little devoted audience: the secret to writing a bluegrass song is to include all the necessary "elements" :: cheatin', lyin', sinnin', heartache, heartbreak, treachery, death, morbid things, murder, mournfulness, sorrow, graveyards and haunted spirits and then include your own brand of "gospel truth"......THEN, you've got yourself a REALLY REALLY GOOD "high lonesome" bluegrass song! the crowd roared with laughter .. well, my first real bluegrass song WAS inspired by DIVORCEs i had witnessed recently in my own family and they didn't know it at the time, but they inspired me, That description sounds like what I know as "country" music. How do country and bluegrass differ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 23:50:46 GMT -5
That description sounds like what I know as "co untry" music. How do country and bluegrass differ? thought you'd never ask ! well, let me start by sayin' i've never seen so many dreadlocks,cowboy hats Birkenstocks, and cowboy boots co-exist so peacefully under one setting as I have at the NW largest bluegrass festival: enter: Wintergrass. hippies/granolas as well as rednecks are drawn to that - --- it's all about "grassroots" and Country can trace its BEGINNINGS back to blues, honky-tonk, and bluegrass -- one main difference is that bluegrass is all accoustic, (unplugged) rather than electric..so the sound you often get is 'softer' , (yet upbeat) for lack of a better description ? the 'Father of Bluegrass', Bill Monroe partly based his bluegrass sounds on the blues from black musicians and that is how the BANJO got into bluegrass : it was originally a black slave instrument that was half strings and half African drums : enter the birth of the banjo !! the "high lonesome sound" hearkens partly to some Scottish/Irish music brought over from the British Isles/Celtic music-and , according to some Kentuckians: there is a Cherokee influence to bluegrass music as well. Ricky Skaggs came out with a CD a while back called "Ancient Tones" which I do not own yet, but it's on my list --- some of the best "finds" are off the beaten path .. and I feel rather fortunate to have "found" some 'things' off the beaten path that sort of landed in my lap, not because i overly "sought' them, but because i was simply being true to myself, my roots, and what natural ability i have case in point: multiple world championship fiddle player came to MY OWN HOUSE to give me a private lesson and i didn't even ASK him to: i asked his WIFE if she would teach me fiddle and she sent her husband to my house instead ... go figure ? the session ended with his telling me: 'your bowing's fine' ... ok..............................................(thx 4 the vote of confidence) well, they say it's really all in the bowing, so i guess that was small praise, even though he had an odd way of communicating it .. ahh ! such is how it often is with elite musicians !! and--i could have told him: "your fiddling's fine, but your vocals need some work" however, I saved it. he is a 'contest fiddler' which has won him many championships,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 0:25:48 GMT -5
That description sounds like what I know as "co untry" music. How do country and bluegrass differ? thought you'd never ask ! well, let me start by sayin' i've never seen so many dreadlocks,cowboy hats Birkenstocks, and cowboy boots co-exist so peacefully under one setting as I have at the NW largest bluegrass festival: enter: Wintergrass. hippies/granolas as well as rednecks are drawn to that - --- it's all about "grassroots" and Country can trace its BEGINNINGS back to blues, honky-tonk, and bluegrass -- one main difference is that bluegrass is all accoustic, (unplugged) rather than electric..so the sound you often get is 'softer' , (yet upbeat) for lack of a better description ? the 'Father of Bluegrass', Bill Monroe partly based his bluegrass sounds on the blues from black musicians and that is how the BANJO got into bluegrass : it was originally a black slave instrument that was half strings and half African drums : enter the birth of the banjo !! the "high lonesome sound" hearkens partly to some Scottish/Irish music brought over from the British Isles/Celtic music-and , according to some Kentuckians: there is a Cherokee influence to bluegrass music as well. Ricky Skaggs came out with a CD a while back called "Ancient Tones" which I do not own yet, but it's on my list --- some of the best "finds" are off the beaten path .. and I feel rather fortunate to have "found" some 'things' off the beaten path that sort of landed in my lap, not because i overly "sought' them, but because i was simply being true to myself, my roots, and what natural ability i have case in point: multiple world championship fiddle player came to MY OWN HOUSE to give me a private lesson and i didn't even ASK him to: i asked his WIFE if she would teach me fiddle and she sent her husband to my house instead ... go figure ? the session ended with his telling me: 'your bowing's fine' ... ok..............................................(thx 4 the vote of confidence) well, they say it's really all in the bowing, so i guess that was small praise, even though he had an odd way of communicating it .. ahh ! such is how it often is with elite musicians !! and--i could have told him: "your fiddling's fine, but your vocals need some work" however, I saved it. he is a 'contest fiddler' which has won him many championships, They say that Bill Monroe was the "Father of Bluegrass", but I beg to differ. Bluegrass music goes back father than Bill Monroe...
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Post by What Hat on Jan 25, 2014 0:26:38 GMT -5
Bluegrass themes seem much deeper than country themes. Modern country music lyrics are often quite narcissistic. Perhaps that is too general a statement, but I don't have much use for modern country music for the most part. Tom Petty has stated that most modern country music bands are just a bad rock band with a fiddle. Norah Jones and the lead singer of Green Day have just released a tribute record to the Everly Brothers. It features every song on an LP that the Everly Brothers made in the 1950s as a tribute to their roots. Both records include a song called 'Put My Little Shoes Away' which was performed by Bill Monroe some years before that. Apparently the song was originally written in 1873 by Samuel Mitchell and Charles Pratt. It's a tearjerker ... you can look up the lyrics or the song on youtube and see what it's about.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 0:28:16 GMT -5
thought you'd never ask ! well, let me start by sayin' i've never seen so many dreadlocks,cowboy hats Birkenstocks, and cowboy boots co-exist so peacefully under one setting as I have at the NW largest bluegrass festival: enter: Wintergrass. hippies/granolas as well as rednecks are drawn to that - --- it's all about "grassroots" and Country can trace its BEGINNINGS back to blues, honky-tonk, and bluegrass -- one main difference is that bluegrass is all accoustic, (unplugged) rather than electric..so the sound you often get is 'softer' , (yet upbeat) for lack of a better description ? the 'Father of Bluegrass', Bill Monroe partly based his bluegrass sounds on the blues from black musicians and that is how the BANJO got into bluegrass : it was originally a black slave instrument that was half strings and half African drums : enter the birth of the banjo !! the "high lonesome sound" hearkens partly to some Scottish/Irish music brought over from the British Isles/Celtic music-and , according to some Kentuckians: there is a Cherokee influence to bluegrass music as well. Ricky Skaggs came out with a CD a while back called "Ancient Tones" which I do not own yet, but it's on my list --- some of the best "finds" are off the beaten path .. and I feel rather fortunate to have "found" some 'things' off the beaten path that sort of landed in my lap, not because i overly "sought' them, but because i was simply being true to myself, my roots, and what natural ability i have case in point: multiple world championship fiddle player came to MY OWN HOUSE to give me a private lesson and i didn't even ASK him to: i asked his WIFE if she would teach me fiddle and she sent her husband to my house instead ... go figure ? the session ended with his telling me: 'your bowing's fine' ... ok..............................................(thx 4 the vote of confidence) well, they say it's really all in the bowing, so i guess that was small praise, even though he had an odd way of communicating it .. ahh ! such is how it often is with elite musicians !! and--i could have told him: "your fiddling's fine, but your vocals need some work" however, I saved it. he is a 'contest fiddler' which has won him many championships, They say that Bill Monroe was the "Father of Bluegrass", but I beg to differ. Bluegrass music goes back father than Bill Monroe... I tend to root for the underdogs and bluegrass has been treated like an underdog by mainstream country for quite some time now. Nothing could be farther from the 'Truth'! (no pun intended)Most flatpickers[bluegrass guitar] can pick country and rock guitarists under the table and there are famous rock musicians who are not afraid to admit that!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 0:34:16 GMT -5
Bluegrass themes seem much deeper than country themes. Modern country music lyrics are often quite narcissistic. Perhaps that is too general a statement, but I don't have much use for modern country music for the most part. Tom Petty has stated that most modern country music bands are just a bad rock band with a fiddle. Norah Jones and the lead singer of Green Day have just released a tribute record to the Everly Brothers. It features every song on an LP that the Everly Brothers made in the 1950s as a tribute to their roots. Both records include a song called 'Put My Little Shoes Away' which was performed by Bill Monroe some years before that. Apparently the song was originally written in 1873 by Samuel Mitchell and Charles Pratt. It's a tearjerker ... you can look up the lyrics or the song on youtube and see what it's about. . ... .. . .. i would say that rock is more true and fundamental in its HONEST music than country is .. country has become commercialized and 'packaged' .. . some of the most 'famous' country singers really cannot sing all that well .. i don't even bother to watch the CMA or ACM awards anymore .. it makes me nauseated
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 1:34:42 GMT -5
Bluegrass themes seem much deeper than country themes. Modern country music lyrics are often quite narcissistic. Perhaps that is too general a statement, but I don't have much use for modern country music for the most part. Tom Petty has stated that most modern country music bands are just a bad rock band with a fiddle. Norah Jones and the lead singer of Green Day have just released a tribute record to the Everly Brothers. It features every song on an LP that the Everly Brothers made in the 1950s as a tribute to their roots. Both records include a song called 'Put My Little Shoes Away' which was performed by Bill Monroe some years before that. Apparently the song was originally written in 1873 by Samuel Mitchell and Charles Pratt. It's a tearjerker ... you can look up the lyrics or the song on youtube and see what it's about. . ... .. . .. i would say that rock is more true and fundamental in its HONEST music than country is .. country has become commercialized and 'packaged' .. . some of the most 'famous' country singers really cannot sing all that well .. i don't even bother to watch the CMA or ACM awards anymore .. it makes me nauseated Please. Don't get me started on how Country aint' country no more...Here's Doc Watson playing Black Mountain Rag: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUrg2Cqxdw
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 1:59:15 GMT -5
That description sounds like what I know as "co untry" music. How do country and bluegrass differ? thought you'd never ask ! well, let me start by sayin' i've never seen so many dreadlocks,cowboy hats Birkenstocks, and cowboy boots co-exist so peacefully under one setting as I have at the NW largest bluegrass festival: enter: Wintergrass. hippies/granolas as well as rednecks are drawn to that - --- it's all about "grassroots" and Country can trace its BEGINNINGS back to blues, honky-tonk, and bluegrass -- one main difference is that bluegrass is all accoustic, (unplugged) rather than electric..so the sound you often get is 'softer' , (yet upbeat) for lack of a better description ? the 'Father of Bluegrass', Bill Monroe partly based his bluegrass sounds on the blues from black musicians and that is how the BANJO got into bluegrass : it was originally a black slave instrument that was half strings and half African drums : enter the birth of the banjo !! the "high lonesome sound" hearkens partly to some Scottish/Irish music brought over from the British Isles/Celtic music-and , according to some Kentuckians: there is a Cherokee influence to bluegrass music as well. Ricky Skaggs came out with a CD a while back called "Ancient Tones" which I do not own yet, but it's on my list --- some of the best "finds" are off the beaten path .. and I feel rather fortunate to have "found" some 'things' off the beaten path that sort of landed in my lap, not because i overly "sought' them, but because i was simply being true to myself, my roots, and what natural ability i have case in point: multiple world championship fiddle player came to MY OWN HOUSE to give me a private lesson and i didn't even ASK him to: i asked his WIFE if she would teach me fiddle and she sent her husband to my house instead ... go figure ? the session ended with his telling me: 'your bowing's fine' ... ok..............................................(thx 4 the vote of confidence) well, they say it's really all in the bowing, so i guess that was small praise, even though he had an odd way of communicating it .. ahh ! such is how it often is with elite musicians !! and--i could have told him: "your fiddling's fine, but your vocals need some work" however, I saved it. he is a 'contest fiddler' which has won him many championships, In a nutshell: Country music is about cheatin'. Bluegrass music is about murder. That is, murdering the one who cheated on you. Hey, just telling the truth! (no pun intended) fwiw-bop
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 2:13:12 GMT -5
Bluegrass themes seem much deeper than country themes. Modern country music lyrics are often quite narcissistic. Perhaps that is too general a statement, but I don't have much use for modern country music for the most part. Tom Petty has stated that most modern country music bands are just a bad rock band with a fiddle. Norah Jones and the lead singer of Green Day have just released a tribute record to the Everly Brothers. It features every song on an LP that the Everly Brothers made in the 1950s as a tribute to their roots. Both records include a song called 'Put My Little Shoes Away' which was performed by Bill Monroe some years before that. Apparently the song was originally written in 1873 by Samuel Mitchell and Charles Pratt. It's a tearjerker ... you can look up the lyrics or the song on youtube and see what it's about. I like both Norah Jones and Green Day!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 2:25:51 GMT -5
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Post by Mary on Jan 25, 2014 2:52:24 GMT -5
How to write a Bluegrass song,
How to right a Bluegrass wrong.
And then the crowd sang out in throng
That's the end of me Bluegrass song.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 3:04:41 GMT -5
.. ... Many people today think they know something bout country music and they don't really have a clue .. All they know is what's fed to them by the media .. Difference between bluegrass fans and today's country fans is bluegrassers don't just listen to it they do it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 3:06:45 GMT -5
Grandma always said-'it's not so much what you read but what you do with it'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 3:08:52 GMT -5
.. Well now - looky there ! Barry wrote a bluegrass song. .. Right on. !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 3:09:57 GMT -5
.. Well now - looky there ! Barry wrote a bluegrass song. .. Right on. !! ... Stayin alive -- makin it real
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 3:19:16 GMT -5
Brand New HeartYou built me up, just to tear me down. You stood me up, now I stand my ground. And I'm tired of lovin' you, Tell you what I'm about to do... 1st chorus: I'm gonna break these chains of love. Then I'll thank the stars above. That I got away, with what's left of my heart. And I'll make a brand new start.[banjo/guitar split break] I'm gonna break, these chains at last. And take a good long look at what's passed. So I can stop a love that's wrong. Before it takes a hold where it don't belong. 2nd chorus: Hey I'm alright, yeah I'm okay. This loving game I just won't play. Your hurtin' ways, took a piece of my heart. But now I'll make a brand new start. A brand new start. For a brand new heart. repeat first chorus. A brand new start. For a brand new heart. (voila) thx to anyone who has inspired a song and didn't even know it .. ! . Yes, I would say this qualifies a real bluegrass song, but I haven't heard the tune, so, if the tune doesn't match hard-driving bluegrass, it may not be. I like to know the inspiration behind songs. One of my old favorites was written by Gail Davies (circa 1981) about her grandma: GAIL DAVIES Grandma's Song Lyrics Original WB 1981 Version Intro: Old woman singing: Come a lou, come a lou, come a hi-lo Come down the merry stream Come a ram tam tam, come a dippy dippy dow Hear the hounds, the big wow wow The bugle horn, the big Fi-fiddle and the hidey ho Through the woods we're gonna roam boys Through the woods we gonna roam
Gail Davies starts singing:
All along the old back road The people stop to talk at her garden gate While inside the family cried all through the night Cause the old woman had passed away
I loved her so and oh she was a special one A lovely lady and a gentle old soul And she taught me to sing an old folk song It's got a melody of a hundred years ago
And she sang "A come a lou, come a lou, come a hi-lo, come down the merry stream" I'm remembering..................
Those memories have given me so much She wore her age so gracefully And there was not a living thing that she did not love And I pray that there is a little of her in me
Oklahoma in the summertime In her rockin' chair she's a singing there on the porch While the hounds are howling through the hot black night And that ole fox well he's a running like he never has done before
refrain: When you hear the melody and when I play my song Every note you hear from me she's singing right along
And she sang "A come a lou, come a lou, come a hi-lo, come down the merry stream" I'm remembering..................
All along the old back road People stop to talk at her garden gate While inside the family cried all through the night Did you hear that old Mrs. Whitten has passed away today?
Come a lou, come a lou, come a hi-lo Come down the merry stream Come a ram tam tam and a dippy dippy dow Hear the hounds, the big wow wow The bugle's horn, the big Fi-fiddle and the hidey ho Through the woods were gonna roam boys Through the woods were gonna roam.Repeat last part again: This song has also been dubbed "The Foxhunt Song"
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Post by fred on Jan 25, 2014 5:12:50 GMT -5
Uh,er ...........how do you right a bluegrass song? Nah, can't be done.
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Post by quizzer on Jan 25, 2014 6:26:52 GMT -5
one year at Wintergrass performing (formally that time),,,,,,,,,, we had performed INFORMALLY before .. . jamming amongst the crowds of jammers .. . which, i'm not sure what was more fun/special, being up on stage officially doing a "paid" gig or just jamming .. as it was the jam sessions attracting listeners that encouraged us to eventually make our own CD .. . so anyways as a prelude to one of the songs, i told the inspiration behind it .. i had always wanted to write/RIGHT a real bluegrass/BLEUgrass song, finally, one day-i DID---AND i told our little devoted audience: the secret to writing a bluegrass song is to include all the necessary "elements" :: cheatin', lyin', sinnin', heartache, heartbreak, treachery, death, morbid things, murder, mournfulness, sorrow, graveyards and haunted spirits and then include your own brand of "gospel truth"......THEN, you've got yourself a REALLY REALLY GOOD "high lonesome" bluegrass song! the crowd roared with laughter .. well, my first real bluegrass song WAS inspired by DIVORCEs i had witnessed recently in my own family and they didn't know it at the time, but they inspired me, That description sounds like what I know as "country" music. How do country and bluegrass differ? Country music is about how you lose your dog, your pickup, and your trailer during a rainstorm. Bluegrass is about how you realize, during a rainstorm, that you never had the hope of getting a dog, a pickup, nor a trailer.
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Post by What Hat on Jan 25, 2014 9:21:57 GMT -5
They say that Bill Monroe was the "Father of Bluegrass", but I beg to differ. Bluegrass music goes back father than Bill Monroe... I tend to root for the underdogs and bluegrass has been treated like an underdog by mainstream country for quite some time now. Nothing could be farther from the 'Truth'! (no pun intended)Most flatpickers[bluegrass guitar] can pick country and rock guitarists under the table and there are famous rock musicians who are not afraid to admit that! Although bluegrass, like polka, say, has always had its following, it was struggling until a) Alison Kraus and Union Station hit the scene in the early 90s, and b) the Coen Brothers' O Brother Where Art Thou brought bluegrass back into mainstream consciousness. Younger performers like Lewis Mumford credit that movie with sparking their interest in roots music when they were kids, so now it looks like we've got another generation into roots, folk, world and bluegrass music. It's great.
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Post by What Hat on Jan 25, 2014 9:24:47 GMT -5
. ... .. . .. i would say that rock is more true and fundamental in its HONEST music than country is .. country has become commercialized and 'packaged' .. . some of the most 'famous' country singers really cannot sing all that well .. i don't even bother to watch the CMA or ACM awards anymore .. it makes me nauseated Please. Don't get me started on how Country aint' country no more...Here's Doc Watson playing Black Mountain Rag: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdUrg2CqxdwDoc Watson passed away recently. I first heard him on the legendary Nitty Gritty Dirt Band 3 record set, which got a lot of young people looking at the genre in the early 70s, me included. I didn't like him. Somewhere that changed, and his interpretations of some of the standards, like St. James Infirmary for example, are best in class.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 25, 2014 9:50:00 GMT -5
one year at Wintergrass performing (formally that time),,,,,,,,,, we had performed INFORMALLY before .. . jamming amongst the crowds of jammers .. . which, i'm not sure what was more fun/special, being up on stage officially doing a "paid" gig or just jamming .. as it was the jam sessions attracting listeners that encouraged us to eventually make our own CD .. . so anyways as a prelude to one of the songs, i told the inspiration behind it .. i had always wanted to write/RIGHT a real bluegrass/BLEUgrass song, finally, one day-i DID---AND i told our little devoted audience: the secret to writing a bluegrass song is to include all the necessary "elements" :: cheatin', lyin', sinnin', heartache, heartbreak, treachery, death, morbid things, murder, mournfulness, sorrow, graveyards and haunted spirits and then include your own brand of "gospel truth"......THEN, you've got yourself a REALLY REALLY GOOD "high lonesome" bluegrass song! the crowd roared with laughter .. well, my first real bluegrass song WAS inspired by DIVORCEs i had witnessed recently in my own family and they didn't know it at the time, but they inspired me, That description sounds like what I know as "country" music. How do country and bluegrass differ? My thoughts as well....though they both use much the same kind of thoughts for their songs...the difference probably is in the delivery of the instruments and the nasally twang of the vocalists!
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 25, 2014 9:54:29 GMT -5
That description sounds like what I know as "co untry" music. How do country and bluegrass differ? thought you'd never ask ! well, let me start by sayin' i've never seen so many dreadlocks,cowboy hats Birkenstocks, and cowboy boots co-exist so peacefully under one setting as I have at the NW largest bluegrass festival: enter: Wintergrass. hippies/granolas as well as rednecks are drawn to that - --- it's all about "grassroots" and Country can trace its BEGINNINGS back to blues, honky-tonk, and bluegrass -- one main difference is that bluegrass is all accoustic, (unplugged) rather than electric..so the sound you often get is 'softer' , (yet upbeat) for lack of a better description ? the 'Father of Bluegrass', Bill Monroe partly based his bluegrass sounds on the blues from black musicians and that is how the BANJO got into bluegrass : it was originally a black slave instrument that was half strings and half African drums : enter the birth of the banjo !! the "high lonesome sound" hearkens partly to some Scottish/Irish music brought over from the British Isles/Celtic music-and , according to some Kentuckians: there is a Cherokee influence to bluegrass music as well. Ricky Skaggs came out with a CD a while back called "Ancient Tones" which I do not own yet, but it's on my list --- some of the best "finds" are off the beaten path .. and I feel rather fortunate to have "found" some 'things' off the beaten path that sort of landed in my lap, not because i overly "sought' them, but because i was simply being true to myself, my roots, and what natural ability i have case in point: multiple world championship fiddle player came to MY OWN HOUSE to give me a private lesson and i didn't even ASK him to: i asked his WIFE if she would teach me fiddle and she sent her husband to my house instead ... go figure ? the session ended with his telling me: 'your bowing's fine' ... ok..............................................(thx 4 the vote of confidence) well, they say it's really all in the bowing, so i guess that was small praise, even though he had an odd way of communicating it .. ahh ! such is how it often is with elite musicians !! and--i could have told him: "your fiddling's fine, but your vocals need some work" however, I saved it. he is a 'contest fiddler' which has won him many championships, I've heard that country's roots are church singing socials and negro spirituals! People raised on these take a step out of the routine type of wording to include the sadness of being alone, divorced, death and life without someone.....just the type of words supposedly is what the difference between country and church....now some negro spirituals did addlress all this sadness and drinking and aloneness....it was just the change up of style of delivery I suppose. Bluegrass came out of Kentucky area where the mountain folk had their own style of music...and yes, I suppose bluegrass was about cheatin, lyin, leaving and all of that...and yet too they sometimes have the ring of old spirituals.
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Post by sharingtheriches on Jan 25, 2014 10:02:53 GMT -5
.. Well now - looky there ! Barry wrote a bluegrass song. .. Right on. !! Barry Gibbs did not write "When The Roses Bloom Again"...it was written at the time of the Civil War according to Ricky and Barry!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 14:37:29 GMT -5
.. Well now - looky there ! Barry wrote a bluegrass song. .. Right on. !! Barry Gibbs did not write "When The Roses Bloom Again"...it was written at the time of the Civil War according to Ricky and Barry! .. . ... ooops, yes you are RIGHT ! so, i stumbled on this next vid with ricky and barry singing 'how can you mend a broken heart'? barry says during the intro that Ricky was "music therapy" for him; helped him see the Light www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TcrNbrY4vY
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 14:43:31 GMT -5
thought you'd never ask ! well, let me start by sayin' i've never seen so many dreadlocks,cowboy hats Birkenstocks, and cowboy boots co-exist so peacefully under one setting as I have at the NW largest bluegrass festival: enter: Wintergrass. hippies/granolas as well as rednecks are drawn to that - --- it's all about "grassroots" and Country can trace its BEGINNINGS back to blues, honky-tonk, and bluegrass -- one main difference is that bluegrass is all accoustic, (unplugged) rather than electric..so the sound you often get is 'softer' , (yet upbeat) for lack of a better description ? the 'Father of Bluegrass', Bill Monroe partly based his bluegrass sounds on the blues from black musicians and that is how the BANJO got into bluegrass : it was originally a black slave instrument that was half strings and half African drums : enter the birth of the banjo !! the "high lonesome sound" hearkens partly to some Scottish/Irish music brought over from the British Isles/Celtic music-and , according to some Kentuckians: there is a Cherokee influence to bluegrass music as well. Ricky Skaggs came out with a CD a while back called "Ancient Tones" which I do not own yet, but it's on my list --- some of the best "finds" are off the beaten path .. and I feel rather fortunate to have "found" some 'things' off the beaten path that sort of landed in my lap, not because i overly "sought' them, but because i was simply being true to myself, my roots, and what natural ability i have case in point: multiple world championship fiddle player came to MY OWN HOUSE to give me a private lesson and i didn't even ASK him to: i asked his WIFE if she would teach me fiddle and she sent her husband to my house instead ... go figure ? the session ended with his telling me: 'your bowing's fine' ... ok..............................................(thx 4 the vote of confidence) well, they say it's really all in the bowing, so i guess that was small praise, even though he had an odd way of communicating it .. ahh ! such is how it often is with elite musicians !! and--i could have told him: "your fiddling's fine, but your vocals need some work" however, I saved it. he is a 'contest fiddler' which has won him many championships, I've heard that country's roots are church singing socials and negro spirituals! People raised on these take a step out of the routine type of wording to include the sadness of being alone, divorced, death and life without someone.....just the type of words supposedly is what the difference between country and church....now some negro spirituals did addlress all this sadness and drinking and aloneness....it was just the change up of style of delivery I suppose. Bluegrass came out of Kentucky area where the mountain folk had their own style of music...and yes, I suppose bluegrass was about cheatin, lyin, leaving and all of that...and yet too they sometimes have the ring of old spirituals. absolutely! .. . bluegrass always has and still does include a lot of good ole gospel in it i'm thankful for parents who made us turn the T.V. off and turn the stereo on and get our instruments out and work up a song .. . music is therapy .. what a wonderful gift from the Lord !! the slaves sang a lot as they toiled through long hot days in the fields i've been thankful i can turn to music ;; often on my way to work .. it often puts me in a good, uplifted mood so i can give like never before .. only problem, is if i go around singing at work i take the risk of people thinking i'm a 'touched' in the brain .. oh well, maybe i am.....maybe i am.....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2014 14:52:51 GMT -5
That description sounds like what I know as "country" music. How do country and bluegrass differ? My thoughts as well....though they both use much the same kind of thoughts for their songs...the difference probably is in the delivery of the instruments and the nasally twang of the vocalists! .. . well, Rhonda Vincent stated once that the difference between country and bluegrass was just different instruments and how they are played .. my mom, who is from KY, disagrees with that .. her concept of the music, is different and there really is more of a difference than just the instruments ; it's how the songs are sung with that 'high lonesome sound' .. . Vince Gill wrote (and performed) a song about that "High Lonesome Sound" he nailed it www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-iG5cweus
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