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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2012 2:59:32 GMT -5
Somebody make an opening statement, please... because if I do it, there is no telling how far in Admin Archives they will bury it. ;D
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Post by DumSpiroSpero on Mar 23, 2012 3:59:14 GMT -5
What Women Want - wasn't that a movie - I think Mel Gibson was in it...
Whaddayamean anyway Randy?
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Post by catgirl on Mar 23, 2012 5:41:24 GMT -5
Women just want to be treated with respect !!!! Be valued s as real people not some object
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Post by DumSpiroSpero on Mar 23, 2012 8:04:16 GMT -5
Women just want to be treated with respect !!!! Be valued s as real people not some object Everybody deserves to be treated with respect...
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2012 10:15:44 GMT -5
Women just want to be treated with respect !!!! Be valued s as real people not some object Everybody deserves to be treated with respect... Yes, men also need respect. Women should show the same respect that they are entitled to, yea?
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Post by Sylvestra on Mar 23, 2012 11:21:47 GMT -5
What's going on ranman? Help us know where you're coming from with this!
I think women of different generations want different things. Some have mentioned that they want "respect", but what does respect mean to women/men?
What "actions" are you observing that you mentioned in you subject line?
.....interesting subject for discussion.
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Post by Sylvestra on Mar 23, 2012 11:27:19 GMT -5
Everybody deserves to be treated with respect... Yes, men also need respect. Women should show the same respect that they are entitled to, yea? I don't think anyone is "entitled" to respect. I think that is something we each have to earn by the way we treat others and how we conduct our lives. When my first husband and I were having serious problems just before our divorce, our daughter was acting up toward him (I felt he deserved it), and he demanded that "I" force her to respect him. I told him that all I can do is request (with consequences) that she treat him respectfully, but that only HE could conduct himself in a way to gain her respect. When I talked to her about it, I assured her that it was within her right to NOT respect him, but that she MUST treat him respectfully. She was able to do that.
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2012 13:53:56 GMT -5
Yes, men also need respect. Women should show the same respect that they are entitled to, yea? I don't think anyone is "entitled" to respect. I think that is something we each have to earn by the way we treat others and how we conduct our lives. When my first husband and I were having serious problems just before our divorce, our daughter was acting up toward him (I felt he deserved it), and he demanded that "I" force her to respect him. I told him that all I can do is request (with consequences) that she treat him respectfully, but that only HE could conduct himself in a way to gain her respect. When I talked to her about it, I assured her that it was within her right to NOT respect him, but that she MUST treat him respectfully. She was able to do that. Well put, but we may be talking about different things... What if a woman is keeping secrets from her significant other, and is quite content to do that until she gets caught, and then suddenly chooses to ignore you after 5 years of respect, just because she got caught with you? Forget about the man, what does that make the woman? We all know men are suckers for women, anyway...
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Post by ScholarGal on Mar 23, 2012 16:10:11 GMT -5
I don't think anyone is "entitled" to respect. I think that is something we each have to earn by the way we treat others and how we conduct our lives. When my first husband and I were having serious problems just before our divorce, our daughter was acting up toward him (I felt he deserved it), and he demanded that "I" force her to respect him. I told him that all I can do is request (with consequences) that she treat him respectfully, but that only HE could conduct himself in a way to gain her respect. When I talked to her about it, I assured her that it was within her right to NOT respect him, but that she MUST treat him respectfully. She was able to do that. Well put, but we may be talking about different things... What if a woman is keeping secrets from her significant other, and is quite content to do that until she gets caught, and then suddenly chooses to ignore you after 5 years of respect, just because she got caught with you? Forget about the man, what does that make the woman? We all know men are suckers for women, anyway... Anyone --man or woman--who tries to carry on a romantic relationship with someone who already has a significant other is just begging to be disappointed or hurt.
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2012 16:22:06 GMT -5
Well put, but we may be talking about different things... What if a woman is keeping secrets from her significant other, and is quite content to do that until she gets caught, and then suddenly chooses to ignore you after 5 years of respect, just because she got caught with you? Forget about the man, what does that make the woman? We all know men are suckers for women, anyway... Anyone --man or woman--who tries to carry on a romantic relationship with someone who already has a significant other is just begging to be disappointed or hurt. I agree... lol, so that is that... but we are talking about her, this guy was friends with her before her significant other even met her at an online dating site... Friends for years, and years.. I see no reason to bail out on a friendship just because you got caught being friends with someone who has been there for you all along... and still is, come to think of it..
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2012 17:17:12 GMT -5
I just have to understand that while something, say a friendship, may mean everything to me and be the most special thing, that to the other person, it may mean nothing, maybe not even be given a second thought...
I can live with that, as if I had any choice..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 17:25:00 GMT -5
Well then, why don't you just go for it and blow the "significant other" out?
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2012 17:38:17 GMT -5
Well then, why don't you just go for it and blow the "significant other" out? For starters, I am not sure what that even means... This is not just anyone, I like this girl... no matter what I may say, I like her...
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 23, 2012 17:45:05 GMT -5
oh blow her sigggynificant other out? He's there, I'm here... makes it harder..
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 24, 2012 22:24:02 GMT -5
Speaking of actions, there is another site that she goes to, she told me she was a member there, but that she only reads. She made it a point to say that she never posts there, I don't know why, I don't mind that she posts anywhere, I wish she would post here like she used to years ago...
But anyway, someone there has informed me that she has 160 posts there, pretty much a regular poster... Why do some women (people?) feel that they have to lie about silly things that don't even matter?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2012 10:54:01 GMT -5
You've lost me there - I'm not really sure what you're on about.... so I guess you'll just have to suss it out yourself! I don't have the answers - maybe someone else has. Sorry... : (
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 25, 2012 13:27:15 GMT -5
You've lost me there - I'm not really sure what you're on about.... so I guess you'll just have to suss it out yourself! I don't have the answers - maybe someone else has. Sorry... : ( I don't think there are any answers.. You did fine, imelda But what I was on about is basically, why can't I recognize the dishonesty in people before I am in a position to be hurt by them? I got lucky this time, I found someone else...who really cares about me... Unfortunately, she is in the hospital, still under sedation, recovering from brain surgery on Monday... when she gets out of that, she still has one more chemo treatment for breast cancer... She is not ill, be she don't lie to me... That is a big step over some spoiled woman who don't really care about anything that "don't serve her", in her exact words...
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 25, 2012 13:28:56 GMT -5
**typo.... I meant "she is ill" (obviously) But she made it thru the surgery, and that is very good...
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 25, 2012 14:24:57 GMT -5
This is a very interesting topic.. Just women alone is a good topic, but add their actions, and what they actually want... I could listen all day to everyone's ideas on the subject... ;D
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 25, 2012 14:26:30 GMT -5
What Women Want - wasn't that a movie - I think Mel Gibson was in it... Whaddayamean anyway Randy? pa1ag1, should I download that one? i don't think I have seen it yet...
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 26, 2012 2:00:57 GMT -5
She is here. She reads EVERYTHING I post, she comes to my threads first, this much I do know. If I am going to talk smack about her (true, but true or not), she reads it. I would rather talk about her in front of her than to go behind her back... like I said, I like this girl..
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Post by ScholarGal on Mar 26, 2012 6:51:57 GMT -5
She is here. She reads EVERYTHING I post, she comes to my threads first, this much I do know. If I am going to talk smack about her (true, but true or not), she reads it. I would rather talk about her in front of her than to go behind her back... like I said, I like this girl.. If she is attached to someone else, be smart and give it up.
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Post by rational on Mar 26, 2012 8:02:47 GMT -5
Women just want to be treated with respect !!!! Be valued s as real people not some object Everybody deserves to be treated with respect... I think perhaps respect is something that is earned but not necessarily always deserved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 11:34:50 GMT -5
Sounds like you are good candidate for eHarmony or match.com. There should be someone there who will be suitable without the extra relationship baggage.
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Post by Sylvestra on Mar 26, 2012 13:18:17 GMT -5
I just have to understand that while something, say a friendship, may mean everything to me and be the most special thing, that to the other person, it may mean nothing, maybe not even be given a second thought... I can live with that, as if I had any choice.. Are we talking "friends" or "friends with privileges" and no commitment to anything more?
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 26, 2012 13:38:36 GMT -5
She is here. She reads EVERYTHING I post, she comes to my threads first, this much I do know. If I am going to talk smack about her (true, but true or not), she reads it. I would rather talk about her in front of her than to go behind her back... like I said, I like this girl.. If she is attached to someone else, be smart and give it up. I have, Scholar Gal. I have met someone who loves me, but she is very ill. She just had a tumor removed from her brain, and she is still not awake, has been two days now, and now they says she needs another brain operation. She may be different when she comes out of it, I hope not... And about the other one, I just get a little sad when I lose a friend that I have had for so many years, it leaves an empty void. So I can't just give up on that, I don't believe she wants that... Too many promises and loose ends... We'll see what happens, she is always doing something I never expected, usually something nice, so we'll see... And I will answer the other posts here when I get a chance, my sister is on her way here to pick up Mazzie.
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Post by ranman77OO7 on Mar 27, 2012 15:45:01 GMT -5
Just an update on my girl Lisa, she had the rest of her brain tumor removed today, and made it through okay. She will be asleep for probably a week, and then she will be sent to a recovery place for about 6 weeks... so I am a bit lonely for now.. But glad she made it!
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Post by Scott Ross on Mar 27, 2012 22:29:11 GMT -5
That is really great news Randy! Glad she made it through surgery ok!
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