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Post by degem on Dec 26, 2007 22:49:14 GMT -5
To SAT well I am not shocked at all by what you wrote.. I believe that's what would happen if it happened to my daughter......and it would be more than one person going after the blank blankity blank....
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Post by freespirit on Dec 26, 2007 22:51:43 GMT -5
Thank you SO MUCH, Scott. For everything. I really appreciate not only your stance, but your balanced approach as well. peace, freespirit
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Post by juliette on Dec 26, 2007 23:14:06 GMT -5
guest 3....I guess what makes it so "personal" I guess you could say for me is that I have a 13 year old daughter...a sweetheart of a girl who though is very aware of what is right and what is wrong as far as "touching etc.go.. If anything was to happen to her ...and I pray to God it never does...well let's just say the thought of murder wouldn't be too far from the minds of her relatives such as her brothers...dad .....cousins...etc. gem I am not saying they would ... Aw hell... sorry... no scratch that... NOT SORRY if this shocks you but... If some creep ever did something like this to one of my girls, I'd kill them. With sat-is-faction. Period. It wouldn't phase me one bit. I wouldn't be ashamed of it either. When I got done I'd go home and leave the porch light on so the cops wouldn't trip coming up the sidewalk. I might even bring the digital camera along and take a few pictures just to make it easier on them. I am so sick and tired of this pedophile crap. These monsters are out there preying on our kids and the authorities ain't doing crap about it. Seems all they care about nowadays is the low-hanging fruit anyway. They aren't doing their job. Fine. They won't so I will. Sometimes I wonder where the protective instincts of parents have gone in our day and age. I have to agree with your sentiment in general. I think any parent's instinct would be to kill the b@stard (and I'm a pretty non violent person). I do disagree however that the authorities aren't doing anything about it. When the crimes are REPORTED, I think they are handled. Tim's case was different because the crime was reported (and like a previous poster said, it was witnessed by an adult). Previous crimes against children that have been referenced on this board were not reported in time. In at least one case, when the victim did even tell her parents (I think she was an adult or teenager when she told them) they discounted her. Regarding one of the highest profile case on this board regarding a very senior worker, two victims have now gone to the authorities, but the statute of limitations is up.
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Post by S A T on Dec 27, 2007 0:10:03 GMT -5
I do disagree however that the authorities aren't doing anything about it. When the crimes are REPORTED, I think they are handled. Handled? You've got to be kidding! "Handled" would be a sentence that doesn't allow them to do it again in a few years. Better yet, ever. So many of these creeps are at it again less than a decade later because the just-ass system puts them back on the street months later. Tim got a few years. Why? Because he and the girls were dressed when they were caught and he turned himself in after getting caught. What a joke! Like that makes him any less likely to repeat the offense. My God. If I were either the parents to those little girls, I'd feel like they got raped again with that pathetic sentence. Plain Sick. This kind of thing is EXACTLY why I have no faith in our justice system and why I have a gun, ammunition, and the training and will to use it should I ever have to.
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Post by interesting on Dec 28, 2007 23:14:27 GMT -5
Eye opening comments!
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Post by decaf coffee on Dec 29, 2007 12:27:46 GMT -5
I think this whole issue with the worker in Minnesota goes to show that you cannot, and should not, trust your children with anybody in religous authority. Unfortunately, most 2 by 2s will continue to ignore this warning and I fear many other children are at risk for molestation.
I get so sick of hearing people write off Tim as "having lust" or "the way being perfect but the workers being human" mentality. There's no way we'll change the people in the 2 by 2 way, but I have learned from this to never let my children be alone with any worker ever. EVER.
And I am so glad that the girl who was involved was never mentioned by name. I don't want to know who she is, and I'm sure her privacy has been violated already. She'll be known as the "girl whom Tim molested when she was 10" by the friends in her area, so I hope she remains anonymous elsewhere, for her sake.
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Post by ex-teenager on Dec 29, 2007 15:10:09 GMT -5
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Post by ex-teenager on Dec 29, 2007 15:15:39 GMT -5
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Post by junia on Dec 29, 2007 16:43:01 GMT -5
Don't know how anyone else feels, buts its scary looking at him. He would have looked a lot "scarier" if I had found him.
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Post by decafcoffee on Dec 29, 2007 16:47:10 GMT -5
LOL!!!
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Things that make ya go hmm
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Post by Things that make ya go hmm on Jan 20, 2008 15:07:33 GMT -5
Ahhh. Don A. Another brainwashed cult member perhaps? Are you one of the people threatening me anonymously? I've been getting threats and hatemail since my first comment here. I'm being accused of all kinds of stuff. Seems I hit a nerve. Typical cult behavior. I suppose Tim being in jail is all a big huge conspiracy huh Don A? I won't TELL people what to believe like Don A. I'll let people BECOME INFORMED and decide what to believe on their own. Google "Truth" "Friends" "Workers" "2x2" or Google "William Irvine" to learn about your earthly founder and the fact that the Truth Religion DOES NOT go all the way back to Jesus. -J Landless J L 12/23/2007 2:04 PM
Do you wonder where JL gets his information? He tell us to read the "truth" website. Do you know this website is composed by losers and they don't have a clue what they are talking about. Don A Alexandria, MN 12/22/2007 7:40 PM
This creep is a preacher (aka "worker) in a secretive cult sometimes called "Truth" or "2x2s". These "workers" are homeless, celibate, and live with members of the cult and their CHILDREN. Sexual assault in this cult by these "workers" is VERY COMMON and is VERY OFTEN covered up by church followers and its leadership. (This is documented. Some workers have confessed now that the statute of limitations has expired. Search the web!) Please become informed about this cult! It is very dangerous and they are always trying to lure in new recruits. Someday, after enough children have been victimized, maybe this cult will be the focus of media attention just like the Catholic Church was recently. Sad that more victims are needed to make protecting children a cause worthy of some reporters time! Search the web! Google "Truth" "Friends" "Workers" "2x2"! -J Landless J L 12/21/2007 9:32 AM
Things that make ya go hmm.
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Post by nitro on Apr 1, 2008 20:51:36 GMT -5
bump
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Post by bandtroll on Oct 21, 2009 10:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by learnedaboutgrace on Oct 21, 2009 20:08:52 GMT -5
Does anyone know if he has any type of spiritual support, workers, friends, pastors?
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Post by eyedeetentee on Oct 21, 2009 22:13:07 GMT -5
Kiwi makes special trips to visit him.
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