Hoping for Drastic Change
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Post by Hoping for Drastic Change on May 28, 2008 10:51:51 GMT -5
Michigan overseer is completely out of control. He has 2 X 2 members against each other, he has meetings in turmoil, he is going around making false allegations, he is using bully techniques to accomplish what he wants, not what is right. He is instructed everyone what to do and if not out you go. Peoples lives are in complete disarray because of an overseer that is becoming a dictator and at all cost. His fellow workers go along with him because if you don't we all know that it is walking papers. He is using kingdom money to travel around the state trashing anyone he dislikes. He is trying to destroy spiritual family as well as natural families. Who is going to stand up for truth and say, enough is enough? Or is truth just a word for disguise? Beware of people that get to much power.
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Post by Golly on May 28, 2008 10:58:46 GMT -5
Have we ever got a rockin' boat goin' here.
Guess if ya don't like the boat, or the weather, ya can search for calm sunny weather else where.
My ships doin' just great.
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Post by heal on May 28, 2008 11:05:38 GMT -5
Michigan overseer is completely out of control. He has 2 X 2 members against each other, he has meetings in turmoil, he is going around making false allegations, he is using bully techniques to accomplish what he wants, not what is right. He is instructed everyone what to do and if not out you go. Peoples lives are in complete disarray because of an overseer that is becoming a dictator and at all cost. His fellow workers go along with him because if you don't we all know that it is walking papers. He is using kingdom money to travel around the state trashing anyone he dislikes. He is trying to destroy spiritual family as well as natural families. Who is going to stand up for truth and say, enough is enough? Or is truth just a word for disguise? Beware of people that get to much power. Just leave & let it go at that...you'll only gain
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Post by sojourning on May 28, 2008 12:24:56 GMT -5
The Truth (facts) always come out in the "dishwater."
But don't throw the baby out first.
People who cause strife between "brethern" will be punished sooner or later. We always like it to be sooner if it is not us.
Hang on to your bootstraps as Michael T. has said in the past.
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Post by degem on May 28, 2008 12:58:43 GMT -5
Seriously, I have become, lately, a little leery about posting my opinions. But anyway, our meeting and others I have been in are not in turmoil.
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Post by What Hat on May 28, 2008 13:08:42 GMT -5
Seriously, I have become, lately, a little leery about posting my opinions. But anyway, our meeting and others I have been in are not in turmoil. Thanks for providing your viewpoint, Gem. Guess who has more credibility - someone who is a registered member with a track record of integrity or an anonymous post?
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Post by junia on May 28, 2008 13:12:00 GMT -5
Thanks for providing your viewpoint, Gem. Guess who has more credibility - someone who is a registered member with a track record of integrity or an anonymous post? Um...not to get too picky, but Gem did have an alter ego here named iliene (sp?) she used to to converse with. ;D
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Post by Scott Ross on May 28, 2008 13:16:40 GMT -5
Howdy Hoping for Drastic Change Michigan overseer is completely out of control. He has 2 X 2 members against each other, he has meetings in turmoil, he is going around making false allegations, he is using bully techniques to accomplish what he wants, not what is right.Can you give some examples of the false allegations Jerome is making? I haven't heard of any, so I am just curious as to what you are specifically referring to. Feel free to email me if you don't want to post it to the board. I know that some of the meetings are having difficulties, but I think that once the investigation is completed that they will be OK. After all, it isn't the workers that anyone needs to place their faith in, it's God. Scott
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Post by degem on May 28, 2008 13:19:47 GMT -5
I can not lie, Junias, I did have an alter ego named Iilene But I am glad to say that I have only one ego now (for now ) To what- thanks
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Post by What Hat on May 28, 2008 13:24:17 GMT -5
I can not lie, Junias, I did have an alter ego named Iilene But I am glad to say that I have only one ego now (for now ) Even more integrity now. (Aah, I hope that alter ego wasn't a clinical condition).
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Post by degem on May 28, 2008 13:31:11 GMT -5
No Iilene wasn't due to a clinical condition. She was a lonely old maid who, late one night, discovered the TMB and decided to post.... ;D just to clarify matters, I am not a lonely old maid
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Post by observing guest on May 28, 2008 14:00:31 GMT -5
Yes, you are suppose to have your faith in God. The troubles seems to be that there are to many Gods. Gods can become dictatorship. With dictatorship there are many ill deeds. That is why when there is a crime committed that many overseers doesn't think it is necessary to inform anyone, just move the person and pretend all is well. That produces ill deeds. A person can lose all faith and hope being under a dictators rule. That is because, even though they want to know the real God, they are under someone else's control and lose sight on what is right and what is wrong. I guess it is as the old saying goes, It's not over until the fat lady sings.
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Post by Zoot on May 28, 2008 14:01:02 GMT -5
Zoot = oot for now
In another thread (no clue which one) someone explains the "peak peek" theory. That is, if we climb up a little higher we get a better perspective and also see that there is even a higher perspective. Could it be possible that as one who is involved in many aspects of the dilemma, JF has just a little more perspective than any one individual looking on?
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Post by ScholarGal on May 28, 2008 14:02:15 GMT -5
No Iilene wasn't due to a clinical condition. She was a lonely old maid who, late one night, discovered the TMB and decided to post.... ;D just to clarify matters, I am not a lonely old maid Bless her heart, a lonely old maid stumbling on TMB. Iilene was such a sweet old auntie! ;D
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Post by Lute1812 on May 28, 2008 14:02:22 GMT -5
I believe Michigan conventions are right around the corner in August/September, also.
Lute1812
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Michele
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Post by Michele on May 28, 2008 14:27:44 GMT -5
I believe Michigan conventions are right around the corner in August/September, also. Lute1812 You are right Lute. Preps usually start the last part of July. We are wondering how they prep crews are going to handle 3 conventions to get ready. I wonder if our overseer will ship in extra help from other states.
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Post by bo on May 28, 2008 15:24:41 GMT -5
Should a worker be an overseer in his home state? How about a move to somewhere besides MI or KY? JF is in his late 60s and he has never preached anywhere except MI, WI, and KY (many years). He was in Florida for 1 year and something happened. I think it is related to the former TX overseer being unable to be the head worker of KY after Peter Hunter died. SOmething like that.
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Post by guest 100 on May 28, 2008 16:02:04 GMT -5
JF went to KY at a very good time and was a very big help the years he was there. Maybe he went to MI at the right time and it is good for him to be there now. I like what some one has already mentioned. Maybe Jerome sees a lot more of the picture than the rest of us do. We will have to wait and see the out come. While we are waiting we could use some of that time for praying for JF.
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Post by um on May 28, 2008 16:11:23 GMT -5
There was a prior post that mentioned that the Russian girls were interested in the Work and sat at the Workers' dinning tables last year. About a month ago.
One question: Are the Russian girls going out into the Work this fall?
There's a short time of before entering, as they have to dissolve any assets, possessions, ... is that the time from last fall?
um
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Post by I would think on May 28, 2008 16:19:40 GMT -5
There was a prior post that mentioned that the Russian girls were interested in the Work and sat at the Workers' dinning tables last year. About a month ago. One question: Are the Russian girls going out into the Work this fall?There's a short time of before entering, as they have to dissolve any assets, possessions, ... is that the time from last fall? um I would think they would have a lot more things to take care of than what is normally taken care of before entering the work. I'm not the overseer but I don't think starting in the work at this time would be a wise thing. Maybe I have JF figured wrong but I think he would suggest a waiting period.
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Post by just answering on May 28, 2008 16:29:20 GMT -5
The twins are in therapy and will have to be sometime as the story keeps unfolding. Now when you need professional counseling, do you think that is worker material. Help us if that is all that they can get to be workers. Whom do you think would trust them in their home? The next thing your name will be on a list of sexual abuse. They have named so many people that I don't think there is any place in USA that would want them. Even workers have to be careful what they say or do around them. Their name would also be on the list. As far as assets, they have nothing. They have never had a job, a car, a license and etc. They have been taken care of their whole life. I believe that is what appealed to them about being a worker. Taken care of!!
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Post by nogo on May 28, 2008 19:33:40 GMT -5
with all the controversy and big mess the girls are involved in, how would anybody consider them worker material? Trustworthy? Really feeling the call to be a worker? No go from this poster- i think its a horrible idea
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2008 19:44:46 GMT -5
Michigan overseer is completely out of control. Sounds like TMB over the past few weeks ;D ;D Maybe we can give him some pointers..
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Post by Lute1812 on May 28, 2008 21:15:53 GMT -5
with all the controversy and big mess the girls are involved in, how would anybody consider them worker material? Trustworthy? Really feeling the call to be a worker? No go from this poster- i think its a horrible idea They will never even be considered as Worker(s). I do not care how/if they turn their life/lives around. And you can take that to the bank, guaranteed. Lute1812
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Post by tina on May 28, 2008 21:33:27 GMT -5
Michigan overseer is completely out of control. Sounds like TMB over the past few weeks ;D ;D Maybe we can give him some pointers.. LOL. I'm glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humor . I'm glad you are our Admin and I think you do a great job. I'm sorry for my part in yesterday's insanity. I could pm you as I am a registered poster but I wanted to apologize to you publicly. And I want to apologize publicly to everyone on this board, registered and nonregistered posters, alike. I appreciate your calming effect and your wisdom with us. One of your unruly children, Tina
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2008 21:39:15 GMT -5
LOL. I'm glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humor Tina.. I think I'm in love!
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Post by Disgusted on May 28, 2008 22:00:52 GMT -5
There was a prior post that mentioned that the Russian girls were interested in the Work and sat at the Workers' dinning tables last year. About a month ago. One question: Are the Russian girls going out into the Work this fall?There's a short time of before entering, as they have to dissolve any assets, possessions, ... is that the time from last fall? um If the Russian girls can become workers so could Mickey Mouse!!! And who is JF to tell someone when they can or cannot become a worker. Isn't that suppose to be a calling from God? not JF? He may think he is a God but he is just a man with a wild imagination that doesn't know where to turn with the mess he has created. To bad so many are blind to this scheme.
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Post by ENOUGH on May 28, 2008 23:19:53 GMT -5
Come on! Jerome DID NOT create the mess he is in......he inherited LOTS of it. Be fair! I would bet the bank that the person who started this thread is in some way connected to the MI abuse case.....
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