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Post by JesseLackman on Sept 3, 2007 17:07:27 GMT -5
So, in a nutshell, those workers who have committed sexual crimes are not at fault, according to InnocentQ's warped way of thinking (using that term loosely, of course), "in a nutshell" what an appropriate screen name for someone making that comment. InnocentQ, the self-righteous psychomyopia and psychoglaucoma gets a little over-the-top sometimes doesn't it?
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Post by IQ on Sept 3, 2007 17:28:49 GMT -5
So, in a nutshell, those workers who have committed sexual crimes are not at fault, according to InnocentQ's warped way of thinking (using that term loosely, of course), ..you meant to say, "your(nutshell(case)) warped way of thinking"... "It isn't the workers fault".....that is everyone but Tim....so now i hope you understand that, now that I drawn you a picture. From your comment....you are "a$$uming" I was dismissing that Tim isnt responsible...that is furthest from the truth! "Are you suffering from exe-ism"?
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Sept 3, 2007 17:48:46 GMT -5
It looks like many here are just button pushing trolls.
"in a nutshell" what kind of serious poster would pick a screen name like that?
That looks like the undercover Freepers that infiltrate DemocraticUnderground just to post wild imaginations to make the hive look bad.
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Post by My Bad on Sept 3, 2007 18:16:37 GMT -5
OOPS, sorry---should have been---"Nutcase in a Nutshell"
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Post by to StupidQ on Sept 3, 2007 18:22:32 GMT -5
"It isn't the workers fault".....that is everyone but Tim....so now i hope you understand that, now that I drawn you a picture. From your comment....you are "a$$uming" I was dismissing that Tim isnt responsible...that is furthest from the truth! "Are you suffering from exe-ism"? What the hell does "exe-ism" have to do with the sexual crimes committed by workers? NOT A DAMN THING! You are willing to dismiss their crimes because it was pointed out by an ex. That is sick! By the way, using your convoluted logic, the sister worker victims are equally at fault for what brother workers did to them, no matter how unwilling the sister worker was. You need an adjustment, IQ....
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Sept 3, 2007 19:17:24 GMT -5
Wow, yet another hit and run screen name matching the flavor of the post. What's up with this?
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Post by nothing on Sept 3, 2007 19:24:53 GMT -5
Wow, yet another hit and run screen name matching the flavor of the post. What's up with this? as if you really cared
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Post by Jesse_Lackman on Sept 3, 2007 19:43:08 GMT -5
Well some of the screen names seem to define an obvious characteristic of the personality of this board - that you might guess the value of the post by the screen name of the poster. It's happened twice on this page.
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Post by IQ on Sept 3, 2007 20:51:38 GMT -5
"It isn't the workers fault".....that is everyone but Tim....so now i hope you understand that, now that I drawn you a picture. From your comment....you are "a$$uming" I was dismissing that Tim isnt responsible...that is furthest from the truth! "Are you suffering from exe-ism"? What the hell does "exe-ism" have to do with the sexual crimes committed by workers? NOT A DAMN THING! You are willing to dismiss their crimes because it was pointed out by an ex. That is sick! By the way, using your convoluted logic, the sister worker victims are equally at fault for what brother workers did to them, no matter how unwilling the sister worker was. You need an adjustment, IQ.... You are twisted and I have no idea what you are talking about!
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Post by well then on Sept 3, 2007 21:38:15 GMT -5
Well then.
since I was talking about what you're talking about, then it stands to reason that you don't know what you are talking about.
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Post by freedom2 on Sept 3, 2007 23:21:58 GMT -5
Wow, yet another hit and run screen name matching the flavor of the post. What's up with this? Hey Jesse, What's up with your bitterness?
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Post by JesseLackman on Sept 3, 2007 23:54:05 GMT -5
Bitter? About what?
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Post by wanttobewithGod on Sept 4, 2007 0:05:35 GMT -5
So, in a nutshell, those workers who have committed sexual crimes are not at fault, according to InnocentQ's warped way of thinking (using that term loosely, of course), Why, yes. You have it exactly right of course. I'm sure that's exactly what he meant. M. Eh...I just saw the whole 3rd page. oops. Ah, well. The comment, with all its sarcasm, still stands. M.
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Post by JesseLackman on Sept 4, 2007 0:12:56 GMT -5
freedom2, have you stopped beating your spouse yet? And just so you don't take that as bitter I'll add a smile;
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Post by selah on Sept 4, 2007 0:13:41 GMT -5
ithascome wrote:
It may feel like unforgiveness to the offender, but it is really just caution and common sense. People seem to link forgiveness and trust together when they are quite different and one can be had without the other.
Blessings, Linda
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Post by selah on Sept 4, 2007 0:15:32 GMT -5
whew..... For a split second there I thought someone had copied my avatar.... Scott, you made me laugh out loud!! ;D Blessings, Linda
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Post by ranman77007 on Sept 4, 2007 3:14:11 GMT -5
...save them from testifying..... if a person pleads guilty their sentence is lighter than if they plead not guilty then are found guilty. In cases like this lawyers advice their clients to plead guilty in order to get a lighter sentence. It is in Tim's best interest that he pleads guilty probably on the advice of his lawyer. bullsh-. they are playing lets make a deal, and scaring him so they don't have to work... the DA, the judge, and the public defenders all eat lunch and play tennis together.... so they try and make a deal, and the lawyers encourage a "no contest" plea instead of a guilty plea, but if you refuse to plead, that public defender has to fight and try and win, because every loss goes on their record, and most hope to be real lawyers someday...hehe, and losing in court is not good for business... if he did it, they all know, and they will have the deal drawn up.. shoot when i was there, they dropped 2 crimes that i confessed to, and tried to get me to plead to something i didn't do.... if you are innocent, don't plead....
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Post by ranman77007 on Sept 4, 2007 3:17:01 GMT -5
You are twisted and I have no idea what you are talking about! « Last Edit: Yesterday at 9:03pm by InnocentQ » Well then. since I was talking about what you're talking about, then it stands to reason that you don't know what you are talking about. ROFLMFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by freedom2 on Sept 4, 2007 9:11:35 GMT -5
freedom2, have you stopped beating your spouse yet? And just so you don't take that as bitter I'll add a smile; That's a terrible thing to joke about, Jesse Lackman. I have just noticed that since you started posting, every post is a dig, or criticism. It appears you have an axe to grind, like you are angry about something. Do you care to share? You can respond to me personally if you wish. A friend
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Post by I must agree on Sept 4, 2007 9:14:06 GMT -5
Yes it is a terrible thing to joke about. You obviously have some axe to grind about this whole Tim thing. So why don't you just come right out and tell us why you are here, and what is your problem instead of going around making little quip comments about other people.
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Post by JesseLackman on Sept 4, 2007 20:47:00 GMT -5
freedom2, have you stopped beating your spouse yet? And just so you don't take that as bitter I'll add a smile; That's a terrible thing to joke about, Jesse Lackman. I have just noticed that since you started posting, every post is a dig, or criticism. It appears you have an axe to grind, like you are angry about something. Do you care to share? You can respond to me personally if you wish. A friend Axe to grind about "the Tim thing"? That's a strawman of your own imagination just like the comment I am "bitter". No surprisel, nearly all internet boards are like this. The question I asked is a rhetorical question just like yours, both are based on incorrect and unfair assumptions, yours on the assumption I am bitter. Don’t read more into my comments than what is there. Disgusted or frustrated, maybe, but not bitter. Lets’s look at the posts from “in a nutshell” and “StupidQ” in a calm, rational, and objective manner. Here is the post from “in a nutshell”; --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “So, in a nutshell, those workers who have committed sexual crimes are not at fault, according to InnocentQ's warped way of thinking (using that term loosely, of course), “ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you agree that is what InnocentQ was saying? I would hope not as calm, rational, objective, and in context reflection clearly shows the exact opposite is true. So how did “in a nut shell” arrive at that conclusion? I’m just pointing out the brutally obvious - maybe the screen name offers a clue, eh? Now lets look at the post by “StupidQ”; --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “What the hell does "exe-ism" have to do with the sexual crimes committed by workers? NOT A DAMN THING! You are willing to dismiss their crimes because it was pointed out by an ex. That is sick! By the way, using your convoluted logic, the sister worker victims are equally at fault for what brother workers did to them, no matter how unwilling the sister worker was. You need an adjustment, IQ....” ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Would you say InnocentQ was “willing to dismiss their crimes because it was pointed out by an ex.” ? Again looking at InnocentQ’s posts in a calm, rational, objective and in context it is obvious StupidQ’s conclusion is way off. StupidQ doesn’t stop with this wild accusation but piles another equally wild one on top! Would you define such actions as smart? The second accusation “StupidQ” makes is in clear violation of the board rule; “Please provide news links if you are accusing someone of a criminal offense! Otherwise, don't post such articles! “ Why aren’t the posts in violation of that rule deleted?? People should stop and think before making drive by postings like these, it is painfully obvious many of the anonymous posters don’t, and it does not seem like they ever will. Consider how many accusations are made on this board without primary source data to back up the accusation. I registered here yesterday then saw a post so gross I deleted my account. The fact is - this board is so horribly infected with illogical and irrational statements like these how can a serious person justify being a part of it? Every one if these “truth boards” I’ve seen is infected with a certain amount of these whiny, outlandish, and perfidious posts, it doesn’t take rocket surgery to see it. It’s not edifying for me to be here and if you think that means thin-skinned you couldn’t be more wrong. I read Secret Sect 25 years ago and all it did was strengthen my faith. So has my every visit to “2x2” web sites. What has helped is personally knowing a lady who knew workers predating Irvine. So I know Irvine being the “founder” is wrong, not that it matters, we are not to be concerned with endless genealogies anyway. If any who want to continue the conversation it most likely will not be here. However, I’m easy to find. Thanks, Jesse
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Post by IQ on Sept 4, 2007 21:15:30 GMT -5
...save them from testifying..... if a person pleads guilty their sentence is lighter than if they plead not guilty then are found guilty. In cases like this lawyers advice their clients to plead guilty in order to get a lighter sentence. It is in Tim's best interest that he pleads guilty probably on the advice of his lawyer. bullsh-. they are playing lets make a deal, and scaring him so they don't have to work... the DA, the judge, and the public defenders all eat lunch and play tennis together.... so they try and make a deal, and the lawyers encourage a "no contest" plea instead of a guilty plea, but if you refuse to plead, that public defender has to fight and try and win, because every loss goes on their record, and most hope to be real lawyers someday...hehe, and losing in court is not good for business... if he did it, they all know, and they will have the deal drawn up.. shoot when i was there, they dropped 2 crimes that i confessed to, and tried to get me to plead to something i didn't do.... if you are innocent, don't plead.... ...an experienced criminal...
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Post by IQ on Sept 4, 2007 21:24:40 GMT -5
To: Jesse
Thank you for your reply, but be prepared for it to be twisted by those who accuse others of twisting - be prepared for those who need to find an excuse for where they are in life today. Honestly....there isnt must honesty here.
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Post by lilwolfmisty on Sept 4, 2007 22:08:30 GMT -5
I am glad these 2 workers did what was right for the children. They have stopped the cycle and hopefully the parents of all affected are smart enough to seek counseling for their children. Young children don't always need counseling right away, but when they get to certain developemental stages where they are thinking about themselves and who they are counseling can be helpful. I am also very glad that these workers care for Tim's soul and are doing what ministers of the Lord should do and going to visit him and pray for him. They should also pray for and support the family of both the victim and the abuser. They have done alot by sending this letter out. I am so glad for the brave parents of the victim and for the braveness of these workers to do what was right Blessings, Misty
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Post by lilwolfmisty on Sept 4, 2007 22:13:15 GMT -5
Take it from someone who knows the defense attorney especially if they are a public pretender will hammer out a plea agreement before they even come to see you. Then they scare you into taking it. Even if you are not guilty the state in most cases can twist the evidence to make it look like you are, so it is better to take the plea and get less time. Saves the cost of a trial, saves the trauma of victims testifiying, and lets the criminal start doing their time instead of being in limbo. OH and lets not forget a plea is counted as a win by both lawyers.
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Post by especially on Sept 4, 2007 22:23:53 GMT -5
To: Jesse Thank you for your reply, but be prepared for it to be twisted by those who accuse others of twisting - be prepared for those who need to find an excuse for where they are in life today. Honestly....there isnt must honesty here. ...especially when you are here
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Post by ithascome on Sept 4, 2007 22:49:09 GMT -5
Well actually it does matter ... when you think you have been lied to. If you know this lady personally perhaps you could give us her name. Other than her word ... what proof does she have? Does she have photos, letters or anything that would back up what she claims? What were these 'predating Irvine' workers names? I would like to see some "primary source data".
Where are you? PM me or e-mail me if you have primary source data... I want to see it.
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Post by whatever on Sept 4, 2007 22:54:12 GMT -5
I read Secret Sect 25 years ago and all it did was strengthen my faith. ...faith in your church and not God, obviously. What has helped is personally knowing a lady who knew workers predating Irvine. and did this lady share any of those made-up names with you? So I know Irvine being the “founder” is wrong The 2x2s got you duped as well, then.
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