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Post by bfvernon on Oct 17, 2010 21:48:06 GMT -5
I am very very angry with this man. He took my father's funeral and stood in front of a crowd of 150+ people and told us that we were a bunch of sinners and needed salvation like my father had. Most of the people at the funeral were people my father had worked with, they respected him and loved him and came to the funeral for that reason. I was totally humiliated. I don't go to meetings any more, because I was ex-communicated after my divorce, so I feel very angry that these people can say and do things that are so TOTALLY wrong and ignorant, AT THE SAME TIME AS SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN!!!!! For 10 years I just kept on living my life and not going to meetings or any church. During that time I learnt that God would not let me go and that He would honour the vows that I made to Him as a very young person. Just recently I have started attending a Presbyterian church and I have found great strength and comfort in doing that. It's very nice to be free of such harsh judgement and criticism. I know that I don't have any right to judge anyone, even this man, because I need forgiveness and intercession much more than the rest of you, so I do feel for this man and his family. He too is a victim. A gutless one. He could have taken responsibility for his actions many many years ago.
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Post by Scott Ross on Oct 17, 2010 23:29:07 GMT -5
I am very very angry with this man. He took my father's funeral and stood in front of a crowd of 150+ people and told us that we were a bunch of sinners and needed salvation like my father had. Most of the people at the funeral were people my father had worked with, they respected him and loved him and came to the funeral for that reason. I was totally humiliated. I don't go to meetings any more, because I was ex-communicated after my divorce, so I feel very angry that these people can say and do things that are so TOTALLY wrong and ignorant, AT THE SAME TIME AS SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN!!!!! For 10 years I just kept on living my life and not going to meetings or any church. During that time I learnt that God would not let me go and that He would honour the vows that I made to Him as a very young person. Just recently I have started attending a Presbyterian church and I have found great strength and comfort in doing that. It's very nice to be free of such harsh judgement and criticism. I know that I don't have any right to judge anyone, even this man, because I need forgiveness and intercession much more than the rest of you, so I do feel for this man and his family. He too is a victim. A gutless one. He could have taken responsibility for his actions many many years ago. Thanks for sharing that with us. :) I am glad that you have found a church where you can find strength and comfort. That is pretty sad to hear that kind of message preached at a funeral. Like you, after quitting the truth fellowship I found out that God would not let me go and that He would honour the vows that I made to Him as a very young personScott 8-)
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Post by hope on Oct 17, 2010 23:57:17 GMT -5
I'm so sorry that happened to you.... was this recently? I don't even know how to respond to that... I don't know what I would do in your situation. Your anger is absolutely understandable, and the God that you trust will help you to deal with this normal emotion and to forgive this man so that you can move on and this wound that he gave you can be healed . Your father should have been honored in words by this worker.... but one thing I can say is that only one man stood and dishonored him. The others stood and honored him by their presence at his funeral, they spoke without words of their respect for him, that he had value and had an impact on their life that they wanted to recognise. I'm sure that you were not the only person angered at this.
I'm so very sorry that this happened to you.
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Post by spiders on Oct 18, 2010 6:31:34 GMT -5
I am very very angry with this man. He took my father's funeral and stood in front of a crowd of 150+ people and told us that we were a bunch of sinners and needed salvation like my father had. Most of the people at the funeral were people my father had worked with, they respected him and loved him and came to the funeral for that reason. I was totally humiliated. I don't go to meetings any more, because I was ex-communicated after my divorce, so I feel very angry that these people can say and do things that are so TOTALLY wrong and ignorant, AT THE SAME TIME AS SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN!!!!! For 10 years I just kept on living my life and not going to meetings or any church. During that time I learnt that God would not let me go and that He would honour the vows that I made to Him as a very young person. Just recently I have started attending a Presbyterian church and I have found great strength and comfort in doing that. It's very nice to be free of such harsh judgement and criticism. I know that I don't have any right to judge anyone, even this man, because I need forgiveness and intercession much more than the rest of you, so I do feel for this man and his family. He too is a victim. A gutless one. He could have taken responsibility for his actions many many years ago. This is a shocking case of insensitivity and hypocrisy by this worker. (I assume it is the one who is currently being investigated by the police for CSA) I feel for you and your friends. He would have taken many funerals during his time as a perpetrator (I have been to some myself) and listened to him many times as he spoke at conv and gospel meetings. I am glad that you have found that God will not let you go and has led you to a caring church
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Post by electbygrace on Oct 18, 2010 7:27:53 GMT -5
I am very very angry with this man. He took my father's funeral and stood in front of a crowd of 150+ people and told us that we were a bunch of sinners and needed salvation like my father had. Dear bfvernon, I am so sorry. The self-righteousness, the hypocrisy of this man. It was abuse of a different kind. By a man who has confessed to sexually molesting young girls on convention grounds. Can there be greater hypocrisy? Would this not make our heavenly Father angry too? This is a good reason not to trust our funerals to workers. Unless you are prepared to risk having a pedophile take them. You are on safe ground. God's word tells you so. This abusive man needs our sorrow and petitions before God for his soul. Because without repentance, the wrath of God on such wicked evil will be dreadful. Praise God that you and your father are safe in the Shepherd's care!
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Post by bfvernon on Oct 18, 2010 17:27:12 GMT -5
Thank you very much to all the people who replied. I feel a great sense of relief to have my feelings validated and to know that what I feel is "normal". I have become so weary of being "not normal" - always having to dress in ways that are weird, do weird things, stay married to a man who was so obviously doing wrong things .......... Thank you
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Post by hope on Oct 18, 2010 19:00:17 GMT -5
your welcome bfv
I haven't heard of this case? which country did it take place in? Is there a thread about it...
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Post by electbygrace on Oct 18, 2010 22:10:07 GMT -5
It is happening in Australia. There are several threads on the main board of TMB and on Wings ('Breaking The Silence' forum), all labeled with something like 'Vic/Tas' for the state that is involved. wingsbts.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=loungeOne worker has confessed. He has been charged by police with molesting young girls on convention grounds. Perhaps a dozen victims are said to be involved. There is concern about a culture of sexual laxity in that state and other workers are said to be implicated too.
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