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Post by csievers20 on Jul 18, 2014 14:18:26 GMT -5
Is Filiner the correct spelling of her last name? Just so you all know none of those that where convicted of this crime did it they are incent the truth will come out one day. Hopfuly soon. There two side to every story.
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Post by faune on Jul 18, 2014 14:57:40 GMT -5
The house should have been locked. RJS ~ I agree, but I doubt that would have deterred these four young teenagers bent on burglary. It's just so sad to think that these young people are in prison for life for the crime they committed and the murder of an innocent elderly person. It just makes you wonder what motivates one at such a young age to do such a thing? Really sad that kids take such a criminal route so early in their lives!
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Post by faune on Jul 18, 2014 15:08:59 GMT -5
This was my great aunt. To my knowledge Mrs. Bressler did continue to live in that home. I believe the insurance company made her do some security improvements to the home before she could move back in. Velma was stabbed 17 times... I also would have been happy for the murderer to have had the death penalty. Her body is laid to rest at Crawford, Co about 12 +/- miles from the Hotchkiss, Co convention grounds. She was born and raised in this area and still has a lot of surviving family in the area. Karyzym ~ So sorry to hear that this was your great aunt that was so brutally murdered in that home invasion. That much have been a very difficult time for you and your family and my heart goes out to you in your loss.
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Post by csievers20 on Jul 18, 2014 16:16:30 GMT -5
This was my great aunt. To my knowledge Mrs. Bressler did continue to live in that home. I believe the insurance company made her do some security improvements to the home before she could move back in. Velma was stabbed 17 times... I also would have been happy for the murderer to have had the death penalty. Her body is laid to rest at Crawford, Co about 12 +/- miles from the Hotchkiss, Co convention grounds. She was born and raised in this area and still has a lot of surviving family in the area. Karyzym ~ So sorry to hear that this was your great aunt that was so brutally murdered in that home invasion. That much have been a very difficult time for you and your family and my heart goes out to you in your loss. what really sad is that those kids didn't even do it. N the murder is still free. Cop treating them lied to them sect. Where the evidence that prove they did with out hearsay. Funny they found a finger print yet don't mach the kids who won't down for it ect
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Post by faune on Jul 18, 2014 16:24:30 GMT -5
Karyzym ~ So sorry to hear that this was your great aunt that was so brutally murdered in that home invasion. That much have been a very difficult time for you and your family and my heart goes out to you in your loss. what really sad is that those kids didn't even do it. N the murder is still free. Cop treating them lied to them sect. Where the evidence that prove they did with out hearsay. Funny they found a finger print yet don't mach the kids who won't down for it ect Csievers20 ~ What about the Court document account I reposted that claim four of them was involved and one 16 year old girl came forward and confessed what happened? Why would anybody do that anyway, if there wasn't any truth to it, considering the penalty attached to such a horrific crime involving an elderly woman who just happened to be at home during the house invasion. If these kids were wrongfully charged, I sure hope the truth will eventually come out and the guilty party gets the punishment they deserve.
Hopefully, the Court system wouldn't send some young people away for life without concrete evidence? However, I'm sure anything can happen in the judicial system today when we read of some people actually getting wrongfully convicted by juries for crimes they didn't commit based on hearsay evidence.
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Post by csievers20 on Jul 18, 2014 17:56:25 GMT -5
what really sad is that those kids didn't even do it. N the murder is still free. Cop treating them lied to them sect. Where the evidence that prove they did with out hearsay. Funny they found a finger print yet don't mach the kids who won't down for it ect Csievers20 ~ What about the Court document account I reposted that claim four of them was involved and one 16 year old girl came forward and confessed what happened? Why would anybody do that anyway, if there wasn't any truth to it, considering the penalty attached to such a horrific crime involving an elderly woman who just happened to be at home during the house invasion. If these kids were wrongfully charged, I sure hope the truth will eventually come out and the guilty party gets the punishment they deserve.
Hopefully, the Court system wouldn't send some young people away for life without concrete evidence? However, I'm sure anything can happen in the judicial system today when we read of some people actually getting wrongfully convicted by juries for crimes they didn't commit based on hearsay evidence.
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Post by csievers20 on Jul 18, 2014 18:06:25 GMT -5
Csievers20 ~ What about the Court document account I reposted that claim four of them was involved and one 16 year old girl came forward and confessed what happened? Why would anybody do that anyway, if there wasn't any truth to it, considering the penalty attached to such a horrific crime involving an elderly woman who just happened to be at home during the house invasion. If these kids were wrongfully charged, I sure hope the truth will eventually come out and the guilty party gets the punishment they deserve.
Hopefully, the Court system wouldn't send some young people away for life without concrete evidence? However, I'm sure anything can happen in the judicial system today when we read of some people actually getting wrongfully convicted by juries for crimes they didn't commit based on hearsay evidence.
They where wrong full convicted. That much I do know look up Stephanie crow murder then you will understand how the justice system works. I'm telling the truth victor ike christine never done this. Yet people believe what they want to. over looking fact.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 18:38:16 GMT -5
i heard(pure rumor)that the guy that did it bragged about it in prison and was caught...
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Post by csievers20 on Jul 18, 2014 19:56:08 GMT -5
i heard(pure rumor)that the guy that did it bragged about it in prison and was caught... i haven't heared anything of that. who was they guy that was bragging about it. it hord to believe people when so many story are told and change aften. yet the real murder is still out here doing as he or she plz.
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Post by csievers20 on Jul 18, 2014 20:10:21 GMT -5
They where wrong full convicted. That much I do know look up Stephanie crow murder then you will understand how the justice system works. I'm telling the truth victor ike christine never done this. Yet people believe what they want to. over looking fact. there was no phyisal evedince that put any of the kids there that night. i cant tell you why people said what they said. yet i do ask why myself, how ect. i do feel for all side of the familys. even velma. yet i do know ike victor Christine did not do anything like that. for heather i can not speak for. maybe these quitings you have,should be ask to them, they are to victoms. it better to hear from they own mouth then listen to what other say.
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Post by csievers20 on Jul 19, 2014 22:30:24 GMT -5
I think the murderers deserved the death penalty. I think before saying someone need death, walk a mile in their foot steps before judging so harshly. make sure there is evidence then what people have to say about someone. dna,fingger prints speak louder then word of mouth. yet it ok to free sex afenders knowing that they have a high repeating ect.
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Post by csievers20 on Jul 19, 2014 23:07:32 GMT -5
If you find out what happened in the case, I'll be glad to add that info to this account. The articles said the prosecution was seeking the death penalty--but I do not have the newspaper verdict. you cant always depend on court docments are on other people statement on they case,if you ever truly look deep into they case then you will see what I have learned about it myself and change your point of vew on it. and ask your self how could the justice system do this to incent people. now days more and more people are being found that they where wrongfully convicted, and spent haft their live inreplacesable in jail. I just wish the true murder would come foreword, yet that just wishfull thinking yet you never know cuz even now days people are starting to come clean.
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Post by csievers20 on Jul 21, 2014 20:37:54 GMT -5
The house should have been locked. how do you know if the house was locked are not? I don't even know that answer to that only the murder would know that. I believe that velma filener knew her murder and let him or her in. how can kids do a crime like this and leave no physical evidence kids at that age cant even clean their own room or pick up after their self when asked.
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Post by csievers20 on Aug 13, 2014 21:07:33 GMT -5
If you find out what happened in the case, I'll be glad to add that info to this account. The articles said the prosecution was seeking the death penalty--but I do not have the newspaper verdict. you cant always depend on court docments are on other people statement on they case,if you ever truly look deep into they case then you will see what I have learned about it myself and change your point of vew on it. and ask your self how could the justice system do this to incent people. now days more and more people are being found that they where wrongfully convicted, and spent haft their live inreplacesable in jail. I just wish the true murder would come foreword, yet that just wishfull thinking yet you never know cuz even now days people are starting to come clean.
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Post by csievers20 on Aug 13, 2014 21:17:52 GMT -5
you cant always depend on court docments are on other people statement on they case,if you ever truly look deep into they case then you will see what I have learned about it myself and change your point of vew on it. and ask your self how could the justice system do this to incent people. now days more and more people are being found that they where wrongfully convicted, and spent haft their live inreplacesable in jail. I just wish the true murder would come foreword, yet that just wishfull thinking yet you never know cuz even now days people are starting to come clean. I thought the ttt was about telling the truth. Maybe they should seek truth of Velma filener real murder then allowing incent kids at thy time. take the fall for it. You will find victor like christine never done it n who ever did I hop and pray that you will come foreword.
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