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Post by Hotdog on Jul 29, 2006 8:52:33 GMT -5
Canadian workers rarely move much in their lifetime. Especially senior workers.
Since the Alberta excommunications of 1999, worker removal in Saskatchewan in 01 and the child custody case in Scandanavia, some workers have been sent many miles away!
Willis Propp is in Oklahoma USA Dale Shultz is the new head worker of California US and the southwest US
Jim Knipe is preaching in Paraguay.
I wonder if these workers are trying to draw attention away from these issues in their provinces back home?
How about Paul Chiu (sp) of British Columbia who excommunicated a lady w/o telling her WHY she had been excommunicated? L. Cameron is her name.
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Post by nitro on Jul 29, 2006 9:43:21 GMT -5
A lot of head workers leave for other states Leslie White,Irving Ross.Just change of addresses thats all. I truly think the workers feel they did no wrong and clearly think they were right on this one.
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Post by Knows on Jul 29, 2006 12:16:55 GMT -5
LC knows quite well why she was asked not to come to mtgs. You've maybe only heard one side of the story.
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Post by Greg Lee unplugged on Jul 29, 2006 12:26:34 GMT -5
LC knows quite well why she was asked not to come to mtgs. You've maybe only heard one side of the story. One could wonder if you know only one side of the story, too.
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Post by Nadineunlogged on Jul 29, 2006 14:32:34 GMT -5
If that is L. Cameron from Edmonton, could it be that she was being very loud and obnoxious in the meetings? In other words, actually swearing in the meeting. Although, Paul Chiu is a BC worker so maybe it's not the same one.
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Post by Knows on Jul 29, 2006 17:54:47 GMT -5
GL you could be right and in some cases probably are. However, a close family member is usually credible. The 2x2 's are accused of being blind to the faults of others in their group and I think the same could apply to the exe's. We don't differ too much in our makeup in that we are all human and like to think the best of those we are close to. This LC is in BC
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Post by Shparky on Jul 30, 2006 16:29:48 GMT -5
If that is L. Cameron from Edmonton, could it be that she was being very loud and obnoxious in the meetings? In other words, actually swearing in the meeting. Although, Paul Chiu is a BC worker so maybe it's not the same one. In reply to the above statement, I can confirm that the L Cameron excommunicated by Paul Chiu is NOT the L Cameron from Edmonton. I know both of them and have concerns over how each of them was dealt with. I don't know all the details in either case (and wouldn't disclose them if I did). But I would caution anyone against accepting whatever they may have heard about anyone who has been put out of (or voluntarily left) the 2x2 system. I know the workers (and some of their more devoted followers) will concoct some of the most ridiculous statements (outright malicious lies, in some cases) in an attempt to justify their harsh and unreasonable actions. It is also obvious that the 2x2 ministry (and,for the most part, the group in general) is very poorly equipped for dealing with anyone who has problems or cannot meet the expectations of their rigid little system. In many cases, instead of showing concern or attempting to understand the real problems that 'friends' may be facing, the workers use a 'sledge hammer' approach to beat people into shape, or else the toe of their boot to eradicate them entirely from the system. Of course, being eradicated from the system is definitely not a BAD thing, as I know many of us can attest to. ;D Don Galloway
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Post by Give me a break on Jul 30, 2006 23:11:38 GMT -5
If that is L. Cameron from Edmonton, could it be that she was being very loud and obnoxious in the meetings? In other words, actually swearing in the meeting. Although, Paul Chiu is a BC worker so maybe it's not the same one. In reply to the above statement, I can confirm that the L Cameron excommunicated by Paul Chiu is NOT the L Cameron from Edmonton. I know both of them and have concerns over how each of them was dealt with. I don't know all the details in either case (and wouldn't disclose them if I did). But I would caution anyone against accepting whatever they may have heard about anyone who has been put out of (or voluntarily left) the 2x2 system. I know the workers (and some of their more devoted followers) will concoct some of the most ridiculous statements (outright malicious lies, in some cases) in an attempt to justify their harsh and unreasonable actions. It is also obvious that the 2x2 ministry (and,for the most part, the group in general) is very poorly equipped for dealing with anyone who has problems or cannot meet the expectations of their rigid little system. In many cases, instead of showing concern or attempting to understand the real problems that 'friends' may be facing, the workers use a 'sledge hammer' approach to beat people into shape, or else the toe of their boot to eradicate them entirely from the system. Of course, being eradicated from the system is definitely not a BAD thing, as I know many of us can attest to. ;D Don Galloway
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2006 4:09:53 GMT -5
The Alberta mass excommunications have quite been in the public eye (much thanks to the Internet) --- but it still amazes me the enormous scope of 2x2 policy of this well organized 'disciplinary extermination' that has continually gone on 'out of public focus' both before and after these infamous mass excommunications the end of the 90s.
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